The California legal issue was just a POC. Cisco is about to launch a Vaccine Caste System based on how important you are to the company, how vaccinated you are, and if you are an untouchable (dirty unvaccinated persons).
Cisco is building an inclusive future for all!!
U.S. Vaccination Requirements
Cisco requires all U.S. employees to be fully vaccinated or have an approved religious or medical accommodation. Candidates accepting an offer must provide proof of vaccination status on their first day. If someone anticipates requesting an accommodation for this requirement, they must receive approval before the start date. Candidates receiving an offer will receive additional information about the accommodation process at the time of the offer. All offers of employment are contingent upon complying with Cisco's vaccination policy.
If I'm the one conducting the interview, I have no business asking the candidate whether she's vaccinated. It's between HR and her. I assume candidates I'm interviewing passed sanity checks upstream, whatever those checks might be (criminal record, immigration status, vaccination, etc).
It is a simple fix and one that is already been worked on. Cisco is putting language like this on the job application - "COVID vaccine status - vaccinated, un-vaccinated, not willing to disclose".
"This isn't like asking if they have a medical condition."
In many cases it is. Tempt fate Go ahead.
"Vaccination status is not a protected medical inquiry under the Americans with Disabilities Act"
That is correct. Exceptions and accommodations can be made for both medical and religious exemptions. Vaccination status is not protected. An employer can ask. This isn't like asking if they have a medical condition.
"Vaccination status is not a protected medical inquiry under the Americans with Disabilities Act"
Incorrect. If their vaccination status is connected to a disability or religious reason, you are not allowed to ask. Since you aren't supposed to ask or know about those issues, you can't ask.
"however it would be illegal to ask about private health issues/status during an actual interview."
I guess you could just asked if they had the mark of the devil.
"And just how are you planning on finding that out during your interview? "
I am not the person that posted that but I will certainly do the same. It is certainly in line to ask the person being interviewed if they any issues meeting the requirements we have in place today with meeting customers, partners, or coming onsite.
"however it would be illegal to ask about private health issues/status during an actual interview."
Vaccination status is not a protected medical inquiry under the Americans with Disabilities Act, meaning that employers can ask applicants even without demonstrating business necessity. Cisco has a policy to not ask about vaccination status however it is NOT illegal to do so.
"I interview candidates a few times at year and you can bet the house if your are not vaccinated I will NOT give pass you thru."
And just how are you planning on finding that out during your interview? It is a part of the application process with access only for ER, however it would be illegal to ask about private health issues/status during an actual interview. If you are a manager you should know better, but with the quality of managers at Cisco this wouldn't surprise me at all.
I interview candidates a few times at year and you can bet the house if your are not vaccinated I will NOT give pass you thru.
Source?
Also - most of the places I applied for didn't list no vaccine required - they just don't require it. They really don't care about the shot either way and don't bring it up at all.
As of November 5, fewer than 0.01% of job postings and about 0.01% of US searches contained the phrase "no vaccine required" or some iterations thereof
Here are the first 10 I applied for - happy to list them so other folks can apply to them if they like (since I have already determined I don't want to work at them), I'm still in interviews for the last two and prefer not to mention them until I'm done with my own interviews. So I'll post some Non-vax job boards for folks instead so they can find the other thousands of jobs available.
First 10 I applied for:
DuckDuckGo
Calm
Spotify
Indeed
C&G consulting
Humanly
Veritas
CannaBiz
Ring.io
Here are the job boards:
Here are the no-vax required job boards:
https://www.redballoon.work/
https://gab.com/groups/49159
https://novaxmandate.org/
https://jobsnotjabs.careers/
https://jablessjobs.work/
https://info.publicsq.com/
https://novaxmandate.org/
https://timetofreeamerica.com/no-jab-jobs/
https://unvaxxxedworkers.com/
https://vantagepointcareers.com/
https://allnurses.com/rn-jobs-that-do-not-t738690/ (This is for nurses, but figured I'd toss it in just in case someone has a partner who is a nurse).
And a quick search on Indeed will offer about another few thousand if you just do a quick search.
Not requiring the shot is getting companies 10 times the applicants. And really qualified ones at that. This opportunity to sn---h up the super high quality employees who were only kicked out of positions because they didn't want the Jab - only comes once in a lifetime.
CNN Business had this to say: "When Primal Life Organics amended its job postings to include the phrasing "NO VACCINE REQUIRED," the company saw an increase in applications from the single-digits to 30 or 40, said CEO Trina Felber."
I've applied to 12 that don't care about the shots in the last few weeks alone - and they are all stoked to be getting the talent that can think for themselves and don't just parrot what they hear on the fake mainstream propoganda news.
That seems strange. There are literally dozens of threads with hundreds of replies stating that Cisco employees only know legacy/obsolete technology and aren't worth hiring.
Which is it? Cisco has talent that can think for itself or Cisco is full of people who've let their skills atrophy and didn't keep current?
"This is a bold faced lie.
I've applied to 12 that don't care about the shots in the last few weeks alone - and they are all stoked to be getting the talent that can think for themselves and don't just parrot what they hear on the fake mainstream propoganda news."
List the 12 companies.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/here-are-companies-mandating-vaccines-all-or-some-employees-n1275808
Which section of our shirt to we affix the star again?
"Every tech company is requiring that all the employees be vaxxed or they get the boot."
This is a bold faced lie.
I've applied to 12 that don't care about the shots in the last few weeks alone - and they are all stoked to be getting the talent that can think for themselves and don't just parrot what they hear on the fake mainstream propoganda news.
"Or folks can choose to leave. Which is what many many folks seem to be choosing."
Leave and go where exactly??? Every tech company is requiring that all the employees be vaxxed or they get the boot. Uncle Orange man is not running for president anymore, so the unvaxxed folks have no choice unless they wish to join the thousands of homeless folks living on San Francisco streets.
Get your booooooo-sters
"I've got a question:
If I work at Cisco and didn't get the first 3 jabs and go straight to the 4th one, will that one work?
OR ... do I need to take the first 3 jabs that DON'T WORK in order to make the 4th one work??"
Dude, stop clowning around! You damn well know that you have to take the entire series to be fully vaccinated*. And you better start now! Otherwise you'll be late getting your 5th booster and be on Chuck and Fran's naughty list!!
*subject to change and early termination. Terms and conditions may apply.
Following the numbers. If 15 Cisco employees are standing together by percentage only 1 is not vaccinated(93% are vaccinated).....that is incorrect sir. The true number is 15 out of 15. Because only the vaccinated can travel or meet in person!
I've got a question:
If I work at Cisco and didn't get the first 3 jabs and go straight to the 4th one, will that one work?
OR ... do I need to take the first 3 jabs that DON'T WORK in order to make the 4th one work??
🤣🤣🤣 🤡🤡🤡 🤪🤪🤪
"@OP+1eip9mdB - you really have no life, do you?"
Don't be mad because your hateful thread was deleted. And do you want to acknowledge what your corporate overloads think?
Imagine shilling for free. Even worse being paid to do it.
@OP+1eip9mdB - you really have no life, do you?
First of all, the 93% number is a lie. Second, anyone currently considered vaccinated won't be considered vaccinated as soon as they implement the booster requirements.
It is a choice - you can choose the medical subscription service (for life) (and inject anything Cisco tells you to - well studied or not... forever) or you can be part of the underclass. Those are the sh---y choices Cisco is forcing on it's employees.
Or folks can choose to leave. Which is what many many folks seem to be choosing.
Cisco is on its way out anyway. Death spiral.
93% vaccinated. Even those with accommodations have limited ability to go onsite, see customers or go to events. This is choice.
Any type of Cisco Social Credit Score associated with the system??
Seconded. (Disscussed in a leadership call).
Certain groups will be allowed certain priviledges dependent on thier status.(ability to go to events, ability to go onsite, ability to interface with customers, etc).
This is likely to include boosters as requirements as they are following medical guidelines. So if you have gotten the shot, but not all applicable boosters (which are scheduled to be required every 3 months) then you will likely be considered unvaccinated and lose access.