Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Google has turned into such a garbage search engine. They give you the same 20 cr---y blogs over and over in their search results, their definitions for words make no sense (compare a definition from duckduckgo to one from google and see the crazy), they do not return any interesting or varied opinions any longer. Not worth using and not worth working for.

You plonkers are kind of missing the point. You could well still get Covid if you are vaccinated. The chances of you getting it (and thereby passing it on to your dear old mother) or dying or getting really ill or even getting long covid are hugely reduced if you have the vaccine.

Fortunately this is Darwinism at play. The gene pool of the plums who seem to think this is all some elaborate plot will slowly vanish. I'm guessing these are the same folks who think they have been abducted by aliens and and that evolution is all a load of baloney. Hooray for evolution.

Spoiler alert. The world is not in fact flat.

"2% of the adult population of the US is fully vaccinated. 75% of all active cases are in the unvaccinated. We can discuss all day testing and who gets tested but simple math - 75% of those that tested positive come from a population pool of only 28% of the population."

This is an example of propaganda at work. The "news" cited above is simply not true.

At this point, I don't know why anyone believes anything coming from "authorities." If you don't have a sense by now that "things" aren't normal, then you need to get out more.

72. 2% of the adult population of the US is fully vaccinated. 75% of all active cases are in the unvaccinated. We can discuss all day testing and who gets tested but simple math - 75% of those that tested positive come from a population pool of only 28% of the population.

Exactly, some probably caught it in hospital. If you overlay the bell curves of daily infections over the daily hospitalization rates (shifted by about 3-4 weeks) the first waves line up. The last one does not, the infection rates exploded and the hospitalization rates plateaued. Wasn’t the corn flakes for breakfast that caused that.
I think the prize for the d-mbest statistical “fact” I’ve seen is the one about claims that the countries with the highest vaccine rates have the highest infection rates. The hint is that vaccines cause Covid (which is stupid, as we all know 5G causes Covid). Maybe, just maybe people living in countries with high infection rates figure that getting a vaccine would be a good idea.

"When the majority of the population is vaccinated, it's quite expected that people ending up in hospitals are vaccinated. Not all are occupying beds because of COVID, many suffer from complications due to preexisting conditions. The scientific community isn't claiming COVID vaccines offer total and perfect protection. They reduce the risk of developing a severe form of the disease. Once again the problem isn't the mortality rate, it's the extra burden it puts on the healthcare system. Why is that so hard to comprehend?"

While I agree that not 100% of the hospital bed utilizations are for COVID - many of these individuals "are" occupying beds because of COVID. And Israel is over 95% vaccinated, yet still their COVID rates keep climbing. If the vaccine was truly working - a country with that high of vaccination rate should be seeing a decline in cases, but they aren't. It's quite the opposite.

Both COVID cases and covid deaths continue to climb steadily.

We are wasting our time on vaccines that don't work. We need to be figuring out other solutions because the vaccines obviously aren't functioning.

"Uh - if the vaxx works - then why are the hospitals filled with the vaccinated?"

Skipped statistics in college? When the majority of the population is vaccinated, it's quite expected that people ending up in hospitals are vaccinated. Not all are occupying beds because of COVID, many suffer from complications due to preexisting conditions. The scientific community isn't claiming COVID vaccines offer total and perfect protection. They reduce the risk of developing a severe form of the disease. Once again the problem isn't the mortality rate, it's the extra burden it puts on the healthcare system. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

If the vaccine is working, why isn't it working without boosters? (Why doesn't it protect against variants like they said it would?) Doesn't that mean it doesn't work against new variants? Do I have to get a shot for every variant that ever comes out to be "truly" protected?

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/will-we-need-a-fourth-covid-19-vaccine-dose-due-to-omicron

Uh - if the vaxx works - then why are the hospitals filled with the vaccinated?

https://newsrescue.com/australia-israel-report-95-99-hospitalized-fully-vaccinated/

If your vaccine works, why would I have to take it? Shouldn't yours protect you?

"Best case is to get a mild infection"

True. And then there's the not so lucky case where you need a ventilator to breathe. Oh I know, it only hits a tiny fraction of the overall population, so why bother. Till it hits someone you personally know.

Just another company to avoid is what you are saying.

Just another company to avoid is what you are saying.

"By reducing the viral load in your body, it reduces the chances the virus mutates."

I wish it worked that way, but it doesn't. Like antibiotics for bacteria, any amount remaining increases the odds of a mutation that avoids the preventative.

It simply isn't possible to create an effective vaccine for a coronavirus. Notice that there are no vaccines for the common cold. Unfortunately, covid-19 is a common cold that has been weaponized with gain of function research.

I truly wish we could get ourselves out of this with a vaccine. But we can't and our "leaders" know it. It's almost a placebo.

Natural immunity is our best chance since it provides resistance to the full virus.

Best case is to get a mild infection, get treated with therapeutics (like monoclonal antibodies) and gain that natural immunity.

How about people worry about their own decisions, mind their own business, and stop both worrying about and attempting to control what others do or say?

High School was over years ago.

Grow up.

"There is no place in the tech community"

Not true. Been applying to tons of places that don't mandate the shot. Even seen "we support diversity including those who need exemptions from mandates".

Other tech companies are sucking up good talent like a vacuum.

Probably because they understand the shot doesn't work, religious people are real and have real beliefs, and they are going to get some great skilled workers out of the deal.

"There is no place in the tech community for irresponsible people who endanger the physical well-being of their peers"

What part of "does not prevent spread" do you not understand?

Good riddance. Kick the unscientific, backward, antivax, conspiracy theorists out to the swamplands where they belong. There is no place in the tech community for irresponsible people who endanger the physical well-being of their peers for no good reason other than their own unfounded prejudice against science. Get rid of the lot and the companies will be a better place for it.

Another mega corp. only id--ts would want to work for slave companies again after this.

Like I said - no companies (except mega-corps) give a rats a-s about the shot. I've already talked to several, and friends have talked to several more. Not hearing any companies who mandate the shot except for these huge a-s-hats.

Avoid mega-corps and you'll be fine.

They are pushing it because they are all connected to blackrock and big pharma. Its a small evil club and you're not in it.

I wonder if they force that mandate on their employees in India/overseas. Could be Google looking to move these US jobs overseas.

With the new hire vaccine mandate and the restrictions placed on those that are unvaccinated Cisco is in effect doing the same thing. Would not be a surprise to see the vaccination rate increase .5 to 1% each month.

{yawn}