I don’t know about you guys but I find it very VERY creepy that the Tech employees on this board are openly admitting to the fact that they are spying on and digitally stalking us all day every day while we work… I think I’ll start logging in to my healthcare provider’s website on my primary monitor first thing every morning and pulling up the office visit summary that has pictures of my inflamed hemorrhoids and an-s prominently displayed, and then do my work on my other monitors and just leave that nice visual up there for you creepers to see every time you spy on me… If you treat your employees like children, don’t be surprised when they start acting accordingly.
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@3ouf+1elXV3I4
Zoom is third party. Nothing can be done there other than gathering info about the call itself. This is one of the reasons its going away in 2022.
Skype calls are hit or miss depending on who is on the call. Skype is not formally supported anymore either, it is being replaced by Teams.
Info for plain old calls isn't generally recorded, but it is put through automated realtime analyzing to be sure there isn't confidential information being sent out. This is another reason we are pushing everyone to Jabber/Teams in 2022 for calling.
That was my assumption yet even to evidence a potential discrimination or retaliation case, they cannot access any of it. No access to Skype calls, or Zoom especially when people use personal accounts. They won't mine email for evidence. It would likely take a legal order to find anything they monitor.
Not concerned at all.
You guys worry too much.
I've been opening up notepad and putting a heavy object on the keyboard for YEARS to keep my Skype from going idle and never been caught.
If they do check productivity logs, I'm probably the highest productive employee in the entire company with how many keystrokes haha.
They can watch me all they want. I’m not doing anything I’m not supposed to be doing
Every word that you send outside the bank in email is scanned. Every device you plug into your laptop is inventoried. USB device document named can be read personal documents and photos can be accessed on the phone you plug in to be charged. It is called endpoint security and email encryption software. Ensures federal GLBA compliance.
It seems like some of you are missing the point… of course we all know we are monitored while using company-owned equipment, it’s the way it’s being done now to supposedly measure productivity because management thinks we can’t be trusted that is messed up. Constantly worrying about arbitrary one-size fits all tracking metrics for determining who is productive are just another unnecessary distraction from actually doing our jobs.
If you don’t realize that any electronic equipment you use, computer or smartphone, at home or work, is not monitored by now, you missed the boat a long time ago.
@wok+1elXV3I4
That’s seriously the least of your worries.
I have covered the camera on my work laptop. I trust no one.
I have to imagine tech would get bored watching me move data around on spreadsheets or make PowerPoint decks, but have at it. I never do anything personal on my work computer, that’s what my tablet and phone are for.
@gia+1elXV3I4
As mentioned below. It's mostly automated. Many 'bossware' apps have been in use for years, you just had no idea. Productivity scores and location tracking and screen scrapes are even older.
@gtl+1elXV3I4
What a stupid comment. You can’t conflate records retention with intrusive “productivity spyware” they are two totally different things.
I agree with the OP’s sentiment. Regardless of the fact that we are required to acknowledge our implied consent to monitoring in order to log in and do our jobs. Some of the stuff that people claiming to be “in the know” have posted is unsettling. The whole “if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about argument is total BS”. Monitoring to ensure infosec is totally legitimate, but productivity monitoring is Orwellian. I’m not paid by the hour. I’m paid to do a job and my productivity is determined by meeting my deliverables, not by my number of mouse clicks per hour, not by how much time is spent in the apps some rando has deemed to be the most productive, not by random screen grabs of my desktop. All this does is send a message to employees that they are not trusted and that the company views you as their property. It’s a terrible way to treat employees and the only managers who would support it are the ones who don’t know how to effectively lead. The tech people defending it either get off on the feeling of power it gives them or get some kind of sick pleasure from spying on us.
What a stupid post - we work for an effing bank. What do you expect?
"Preservation of records, specifically SEC 17a-4(b), SEC 204-2, SEC 206(4)-7, SEC Rule IA-2204 and FINRA Rule 4500, financial firms are under continuous scrutiny and face substantial fines for non-compliance."
@ifn+1elXV3I4 is right. Read the warning when you sign on, it's all spelled out. Just by using the system, you automatically agree to it.
Federal law has no requirement for a company to tell you what they are monitoring or recording when accessing their systems to do your job. At least WF tells you. Many workplaces do not.
It's also not being done by a human, for the most part. It's largely automated for most of the tools, and the red flags get bubbled up.
You shouldn't be doing anything personal on a work device anyway. You shouldn't have personal pics on there. You shouldn't be checking your social media or loading music on it. It's for work.
Garbage post
If you think this is bad, just wait until you find out what Google, Facebook, Microsoft, most Android apps, and Amazon are gathering. It’s stalking on steroids.
It’s not exclusive to WF. Most medium to large corporations have whole suites of monitoring. Out of the four places I’ve worked in the past 12 years, I’d rank WF as mild. Some companies have software taking multiple screenshots every hour at random. Others record every call, text, email, and chat. That’s just how it is.
@tlv+1elXV3I4
It’s literally the first thing you see when you sign on. The warning says Wells has the right to do whatever they want to with their hardware and software. You signing on binds you to that clause.
It would be much more creepy if they didn't talk about it openly.
Yes people, so get back to work or else.
I never signed anything of the sort when I was hired. I’ve had to click and acknowledge it electronically in the years since, but the only thing I signed when hired was my job offer and my relocation package repayment agreement, neither of which said anything about consenting to constant invasive electronic surveillance.
I’m guessing most people never dreamed it would be as invasive and creepy as what’s been described though
You signed an acknowledgement that they could, and would, do that at any point when you were hired. Complaining about it now seems pretty lame.