With all this work from home talk, would those who are advocating for it be willing to take a pay decrease or give up contractual raises, for the opportunity to work from home?
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“If you have to constantly monitor what your employees are doing by watching them and listening to them all day long you either have serious trust issues, get off on being a voyeur or looking for excuses to be lazy. Regardless the reason, you shouldn't be working here”
What on earth are you talking about? Are you for real? Businesses in North America have been monitoring and watching their employees either directly or indirectly over the course of the last 150 years.
So before WFH, working in an office environment, where anyone can physically see or hear you, meant that it was filled with voyeurs? Did you work alone inside locked bank vault or something, where you remained unobserved or unmonitored?
What an inane comment.
Get back to the office. Sheesh.
Why should you get paid less working from home? It’s a win - win situation. The company has less real estate costs and the employee doesn’t have to commute.
Pfff have you been to any of the COs in Philadelphia… it’s like covid crawling all over the walls they are so filthy lol
@1mhf+1epm1Qp8:
Bring it on!
We'd show once and for all that union is better than vendor
I believe no pay cut, but you move into the lowest geographical salary range for your job title which impacts where your salary is in range and future merit increases. If you meet or exceed the top of the range, no merit increase.
Example Salary: $100,000
Work in office geo range 2: $90,000 - $110,000. Rated Meets, potential 3% merit increase, $3,000.
Work from home, geo range 3: $80,000 - $100,000. At top of range, no merit increase.
I wouldn't suggest a pay cut. I think we should agree to home base with the condition of a new pay structure in the next contract. We should move to a pay per call structure instead of hourly. Every rep (us and foreign) would be assigned a per call rate. We could design an algorithm that uses that rate along with other parameters... AHT, ATT, sales, customer survey, etc to determine the best available rep, and route the call there. It would ensure all reps were engaged in handling each call as efficiently as possible. It would incentivise each rep to be available to take calls. It would reduce or eliminate the need for scheduling as the reps would have incentive to be available when they're needed. We could rank the reps based on performance, and use that info to determine the best area to hire new reps if we need to expand. I'm certain a structure like this would have the potential for drastic savings.
14 replies and not one stating they would be willing to take a pay cut, but plenty coming up with excuses. Guess that means everyone will soon be making that miserable morning commute back to their office. But hey, think of all the money you saved by using the company's toilet paper...
Do people really think call centers are that big a part of verizon's total real estate costs? We have properties all over the world. If we offloaded just the call centers, we'd barely notice it in our total real estate costs.
It's funny how we constantly hear complaints about how VZ is cheaping out on building maintenance and services, how dirty the toilets are, how how maintenance is ignored, how cr---y the food is, how dangerous the neighborhood is. Couldn't they loosen the purse strings a little to make it bearable?
Now, suddenly, VZ is going broke from real estate costs! Give us WFH. It'll save you GAZILLIONS of dollars on these gleaming palaces you're providing for us. Sure, we'll miss the free lunches... the lobster, the filet mignon, the caviar. We'll take the hit for you, though. Just let us have the reclining, heated, massaging office chair as a reminder of what we gave up.
And, let's not mention the inherent hypocrisy....
We're union strong! We stand for the American worker. Not just union workers, all of them! We're all just trying to make a living for our families in a cruel, heartless world. Everyone except the people that maintain our buildings... the janitors, the plumbers, electricians, the landscapers, the cooks and servers that is. F#
@1jec+1epm1Qp8 There are reports for everything and you can tell if an employee is doing what is expected of the them if they are meeting their goals. Even when we were in the office employees weren't constantly monitored like that.
If you have to constantly monitor what your employees are doing by watching them and listening to them all day long you either have serious trust issues, get off on being a voyeur or looking for excuses to be lazy. Regardless the reason, you shouldn't be working here.
What kind of inane question is that?!?! Do you have any idea how much money Verizon is saving by having people work from? There is rent/mortgage payments, taxes, insurance, electricity, water, internet, cable, signs, displays, cleaning crew, maintenance, landscaping, office supplies, bathroom supplies, kitchen supplies, equipment, kitchen staff, food, vending machines, security etc... The list goes on. The WFH employees have to take on alot of these burdens now and Verizon pays them nothing additional for it. Just a measly internet stipend of $50 that doesn't even cover the total cost of internet. Plus you have to have an extra dedicated room for work (there is a cost for associated with that and we are not getting anything for that too) and buy your own office supplies, electricity, etc... At least when you had an office to go to if you moved to an area that the cost of living was higher you would get a cost of living adjustment. Not anymore. Also, if you got hurt at work you could claim workers comp. Now, (ex) what happens if there is a lightning storm and electricity happens to go through your equipment while you are working and you get electrocuted? It is just a matter of time before WFM is outsourced.
And if you work from home, you should be monitored remotely by both video & audio at your work station during work hours. If you don’t like that, then don’t work from home and get back to the office.
No, give me a raise to come in instead
The company needs to maintain control over the computers. They need to make available computers loaded with the software approved and required for work. Verizon could lease them to the reps via paycheck deduction.
people working from home should have to buy their own computers, laptops, phones, etc. If you don’t like it, report back to the office. Fair compromise.
A legal scholar you are not…
The company’s savings may not be realized for years, but the savings of those working from home were realized immediately. Also, just because the company’s real estate costs may go down, their IT costs will go up along with some loss of workforce productivity so in the long run, it may not really be that beneficial to the company. Time will tell.
This post is as sensible as the posts saying the vaxxine can be "somehow written into" an existing contact.
- You cannot just "give up" contractual raises that have already been bargained for and are in an existing contract, as if it was agreed to by the union members.
- You cannot just "somehow write into" an existing contact that has already been bargained for, that you must be vaxxed, as if it was agreed to by the union members.
willing to take a pay decrease or give up contractual raises, for the opportunity to work from home?
It saves the company money for not having to provide an office space for the employee.
The only reason to take a paycut is if the employee moves to an area with a lower cost of living.
Not Ed, whoever that is. I'm also not trying to stir the p-t. It's a legitimate question, that everyone who wants to work from home needs to ask themselves. Being in an office comes with a financial and time burden that was factored in while negotiating your rate of pay. Work from home greatly reduces those burdens, but what everyone needs to ask themselves is, does it reduce them enough to give up some of your income?