Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Interesting Observation on Ford SSIP v Schwab

I took the lump sum at the end of last year. I had that money rolled into a Schwab IRA. I retained my money in the Ford SSIP as well as a 401k that I had at GM from a former life.

Initially, I was going to move my 401k from Ford to Schwab, for ease of bookkeeping etc. I'm glad that I did not do this.

Ford and GM (as well as many others) offer comingled or pooled funds. These funds have lower fees. For the Fidelity Growth Company Fund, it is close to 0.5% lower for the fund offered through Ford, v the retail shares at Schwab. So, for every million you have in your 401k, you will save $50k/yr keeping it at Ford. (assuming other funds are similar - I'm going to track this down.)

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Post ID: @OP+1er29w36

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Regarding Edelman, I had a good experience with them as I was preparing to take the lump sum. I had several meetings with an Edelman fiduciary. In the end, I placed my lump sum with Vanguard. The Edelman adviser said that Edelman could not complete with Vanguard's low fee structure and he was legally obligated to tell me that.

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Post ID: @6vgn+1er29w36

@2bva+1er29w36 : this is actually brilliant. those financial advisors are happy to take their percentage commissions but disavow any responsibility when things go bad. no warranty.

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Post ID: @3foz+1er29w36

The question I always like to ask financial advisers is, you advise that I diversify my assists wouldn't it also be a good idea to diversify my financial advisers as well? If people that invested all their money with Bernie Madoff had only spread their assists among several advisers they would be in a better place today.

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Post ID: @2bva+1er29w36

Does anyone have any comments on Edelman Financial Engines and fees vs. Ford 401k?

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Post ID: @2suo+1er29w36

OP, your math is off. 0.5% of 1 million is not 50k, it is 5k.

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