Supervisors at all parts of the organization are corrupt and $tupid individuals without a single exception. You may find a rational guy here and there but the greed for their next assignment and appealing their superior is so high that they act like id--ts and will throw anyone under the bus.
Everyone of these people are sp-t worthy is all that anyone can say. Lowest of the lowest.
OP:
Whatever, I eat cake, breakfast, lunch and supper. So what? Deal with it Peon.
Annandale is paralyzed……
I calculated that this accurate post was visited by at least 17 toxic supervisors and managers. I liked one of the suggestions that said to ensure that the words about supervisors and managers at ExxonMobil being 100% toxic and spineless get spread. It is great to see a concentrated effort to disseminate this knowledge so such bad behavior. doesn't get spread in other productive companies by virtue of mistakingly hiring anyone from EM.
Do your part, keep this information about ExxonMobil supervisors, leads, and managers as worst humans available to external hiring companies.
Source: The Economist
June 2018
Mr Graeber: One thing it shows is that the whole “lean and mean” ideal is applied much more to productive workers than to office cubicles. It’s not at all uncommon for the same executives who pride themselves on downsizing and speed-ups on the shop floor, or in delivery and so forth, to use the money saved at least in part to fill their offices with feudal retinues of basically useless flunkies.
Managers have whole teams of people who are just there, for instance, to design the graphics for their reports, write accolades for in-house magazines no one reads, or in many cases, who aren’t really doing anything at all, just making cat memes all day or playing computer games. But they are kept on because the prestige and even sometimes the salary of any given manager is measured by how many people he has working under him or her.
Exxon management has never been a place for independent thinkers, for non-conformists or for anybody who would put the interests of the company above their career. Managers also had to be ruthless in downturns, but at least it was clearly unavoidable.
The current environment is very different. The management of EM has essentially declared war on the regular employees who do the real work, deciding that they have to be $crewed in every way possible before their jobs get eventually shipped to low-cost countries.
Completely fake ranking and oversized, endless PIPs at times of high profits take things to a new level for managers. Just being careeristic and indifferent does not cut it anymore; now you need to be a bit of a sociopath to feel at home in this cannibalistic company. It’s telling that some managers with otherwise bright prospects have called it quits - it just becomes too much to stomach.
@fud+1f22G81Q
You, the outraged manager - congratulations for finding a way to fake your up votes! You have finally succeeded to do something technical!
However, don’t you think that shows everybody how cheating is the way the EM management “wins”? Maybe you should have stayed on LI, posting brown nosing stuff for the top management and receiving “likes” from young Hipos or scared new hires.
I do not believe that all supervisors and managers lack empathy or are toxic or worthless. Of course there is a large fraction of people promoted based on skills or potential unrelated to what any decent professional would think I’d relevant to a technical or operational or even business. But not all managers are necessarily of that type.
The problem is that no manager has any real decision power and nobody really asks their view for input in anything important . Management in EM is at best an information transmission mechanism from top to bottom mostly. The other direction happens too but the emphasis is on what higher levels like to hear, not what they should here.
Eventually everybody understands that fact and the managers end up doing nothing (best approach not to hurt a career) besides the absolutely necessary except meaningless PowerPoints. The low level ones eventually take their frustration from the “system” to their direct reports exercising their “power” to them - who will sit where, who will allow to travel, who will be ranked good or NI, who will promoted first - just because they can. And this builds frustration to the rest of us.
@fud+1f22G81Q
Nobody gets “promoted” at EM. That would occur if all eligible people would be considered and the best would be promoted. People move up at EM because some older useless, incompetent higher manager decides, without any meaningful interaction, that that person is “leadership material”.
You’re right in a way, people moved into management have to be highly competent at some things: brown nosing their sponsors and other powerful people, show no interest in useful work, take decisions that promote their career even if it hurts the company, and especially erase any form or empathy for other human beings.
People get moved every 2-3 years to make sure that no “leader” can ever be tied and held responsible for a specific bad decision. This is a fundamental principle on which this company was built: impunity for management.
This was my biggest shock when I got hire At Exxon.
No managers have to build a team and be responsible to show results not just on the business but developing people
HR move people all over the place and lot of times hard to understand decisions
I have not seen any team with the same people for longer than 4 years….no one has deep knowledge in why they do
Weird place and ethics is something very hard to see. It’s all about what is the next promotion
Worst is employees are eager to talk but they don’t want to hear..so sad
Yes - talking about cost savings...while the company has more funds, who do you think take advantage of it ? I have seen plenty of managers who only will stay at "specific" hotels or "specific" airlines when they were on business travels....although it might costs the company extra..they always find ways to trick the system....but nobody is going to challenge that, especially if that managers superiors are not located in the same country...
@fud+1f22G81Q You are so proud of getting a lowly supervisor position. 👏 for your continuing blindness. Please proceed to enhance your lifestyle of attending meetings, fudging data and editing other’s PowerPoints
Your definition of getting promoted is skewed. This is your brainwashed ExxonMobil experience talking. There are numerous successful talented individuals who are far from becoming bogus management employees and are producing actual value for their companies and the society.
At ExxonMobil, getting moved to a management (not promoted you id--t) has a direct symbolic value…. the criteria used to select these people are simple - (i) a person without novelty who can tag the company line without challenging status quo with new ideas. (ii) A person moved to supervisor position has to act like a robot and be willing to throw people under the bus at anytime while laude accolades for their superiors.
So you call it promotion, I call it a clear way of identifying employees that need to tagged for life for being toxic for any company.
It’s simply amazing that according to people on this board every single person promoted is incompetent and the true genius individuals who the company couldn’t survive without are those not promoted
@zzs+1f22G81Q
You know who you are. You are a lame as$ sycophant supervisor, do you really believe that faking data, acting arrogant, a getting excited about all stupid things people above you say is giving your lowly under achieved life some meaning?
If this is the case, go for it as everyone knows that you have a pathetic job and couldn’t be hired anywhere else. For others who argue that some managers at ExxonMobil are nice (as humans many were normal), you are too naive to notice their subtle (non-) actions.
All of the managers and lowly supervisors have chosen to brain wash themselves to follow the marching orders from the above and have zero spine.
Everyone in the management from leads, supervisors, to executives should be considered dumpster flre without exception.
There are always bad and good supervisors.. during my career at EM, I have good and bad supervisors (although from my own experience more uncapable one)...I have also seen some people who have changed for the worse once they became supervisor and keep themselves distance from their once upon a time "friend"... Most supervisors are so afraid to make decisions..
The problems are with ALL management thinking they are doing well and it’s the “others” mucking this thing up.
We’d be much better off by cutting a large chunk of our management staff.
@zzs+1f22G81Q You're wasted here, you show a clear flair for empathy and human understanding. This would be a super yammer post!
OP, you sound like a bitter person who has blamed others for your own problems your entire life. I am sure you blame others for your personal problems the same way you blanket blame supervisors for your professional problems. I feel sorry for you. A different workplace will not heal you, take a step back and maybe look at why you feel this way, not what or who you believe to be causing it. Then slap yourself in the face and wake up to the fact you’re in the real world and get your ar-e back to work.
Make these threads and links popular and accessible to all recruiting companies and make them widely visible.
When these so called toxic supervisors, advisors, principles, leads etc. go applying for jobs outside of ExxonMobil, they get deservingly slapped and kicked out.