Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Poll: Do you prefer the office or WFH

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Post ID: @OP+1fbO33La

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WFH with a few times a year in-person team building meetings.

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Post ID: @wrg+1fbO33La

Work from home! This company hasn't surveyed us that I'm aware of. Nobody wants 3 mandatory days a week in the office that I've spoken to. Make it 2 days tops, or 1. The reception would be far better.

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Post ID: @atw+1fbO33La

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Brilliant!

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Post ID: @acz+1fbO33La

You mean, like, an actual sensible plan?

This upper management has proved the last two years they can’t do that.

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Post ID: @fqr+1fbO33La

My experience with WFH has been working remote since 2008. So, please keep that in mind when understanding this person's point of view.

WFH for me means:

  • Currently enjoying starting my workday with good coffee, checking the news, and walking over to my office.
  • Currently enjoying a relaxed, focused, and more productive day. WF benefits by getting more hours worked because I choose to do so. Working required night activities are balanced by flextime during the day on my schedule. I am more productive in meetings, have more desire to contribute, and more accommodating of additional work because of this arrangement. Worklife has not been deprived of a lack of collaboration, interaction, or productivity.
  • Currently enjoying seeing my family more hours of the day.
  • Currently enjoying more effective pay by not paying for second vehicle ownership, maintenance, and parking.
  • Currently enjoying more effective pay by not paying for wardrobe upgrades, daily coffee and lunch costs.
  • Currently enjoying better work environment by having my own office, my own sound system, lift desk, chair and monitor setup purchased by me and what WF could never offer.
  • Currently enjoying being able to complete required home chores (laundry, cooking, etc) vs. after a day of "at the office".
  • Currently enjoying a healthier lifestyle by being able to be with and walk my dog during the day on breaks.
  • Currently enjoying a better and more confortable stress free work/life balance since 2008. Especially, being able to avoid Covid.

RTO for me means:

  • A return to buying and paying maintenance on another vehicle just to get to work.
  • A return to hour+ long commutes to and from, and paying for parking (if you can get a spot).
  • A return to refreshing and buying the work wordrobe.
  • A return to regular 8 hours on the job.
  • A return to lower productivity vs. WFH.
  • A return to cr---y office equipment, lighting, and HVAC.
  • A return to buying coffee and lousy lunch daily.
  • A return to filthy restrooms and the slobs who use them and dont flush.
  • A return to smelly lunches in the cube/workspace next to you.
  • A return to people dropping buy and interrupting you because they think their issue is more inmportant, or just to chat.
  • A return to background noise while on the phone during meetings.
  • A return to people interrupting you while you are on the phone.
  • A return to people hanging around outside your workspace chatting about S88t you can't help overhearing.
  • A return to dealing with reduced work-life balance.
  • A return to lethargic work life because after being in the office, you get bored and count the hours of when you can get out of there.

Now, before some of you flame me with snide remarks of "leave if I dont like it, or blow me off with "ok, Boomer", or some other insult, understand this.

WFH was following the way of the future when they kicked us out in 2008. They delt with the same arguments for and against WFH as we have today. Nothing special here. Now, instead of fixing the problems that most have stated as reasons FOR RTO, they seem to discount all the reasons why WFH is beneficial and apply it across the enterprise. I understand that some folks have a need to be in the office. Some of the arugment is work-related and some of it seems to be socially related. Most of the people I have spoken to about RTO don't want it. Even my friends at other banks. There has been no real arguement that productivity has suffered due to WFH. Some think some sort of hybrid solution is best. Not necessarily a 3-day regime but a one-off as-needed workplan. I would be ok with that.

Those of us who have WFH for most of our careers have adapted to all the changes WF has gone through and have done quite well with WFH. At minimum, the powers that be should take alook at the individual LOBs and then decide if RTO is more beneficial instead of the edict of RTO for everyone.

Peace

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Post ID: @acz+1fbO33La

Use the up arrow to vote WFH.
Use the down arrow to vote RTO.
If you don't want to leave a comment with your explanation for one over the other.

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Post ID: @avy+1fbO33La

How do i vote?

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Post ID: @oin+1fbO33La

Was 100% WFH pre-pandemic and luckily got authorization from SVB to remain WFH. My team is spread out across the Central and Eastern US, so it was pointless to even entertain the idea of driving in to an office that I have never been to just to collaborate with my teammates the same way that I do from home via Skype, Zoom, etc.

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Post ID: @gff+1fbO33La

If the people I need to meet with were located here, I would prefer in person meetings. However, WF is spread across several locations so I have to drive 10 miles to come into the office to make a phone call. I also have to talk softly as to not disturb those around me. If I do talk to anyone in the office, it is about the weather, our kids or what we are all going to have for supper that night.

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Post ID: @mxm+1fbO33La

@bhx+1fbO33La definitely has worked at WF for a while!

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Post ID: @bxo+1fbO33La

Wfh or hybrid with 2 days in the office

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Post ID: @huw+1fbO33La

WFH and it’s not even close. I plan on leaving and finding a full time remote option as soon as WF goes ahead with RTO.

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Post ID: @xpy+1fbO33La

home. id rather come in for a monthly meeting or town hall. It’s pointless to be in the office. I know some like to talk and meet with people but that’s just benefitting their social aspects not really work. Networking is good but the only purpose it serves if if you are trying to move around or know who does what, etc. OUTSIDE of your area. If someone is on your team and you want to socialize, you can. Even if you socialize at work and it makes you FEEL better, it doesn’t help your performance any more than anything that makes you feel better or happy. Work acquaintances are not friends and some ppl just love to be seen. No thanks. I dont need the validation.

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Post ID: @xyo+1fbO33La

Hybrid

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Post ID: @lys+1fbO33La

WFH to escape the cesspool of gossip, cliques, mean girls, misogyny, nepotism, and office affairs.....

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Post ID: @bhx+1fbO33La

WFH.

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Post ID: @frj+1fbO33La

Rather be in the office where I feel like I have a career not just a job. Meeting and talking with others in the same business is learning to me not a bad thing. I think WFH is career limiting.

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Post ID: @esd+1fbO33La

WFH all the way! My team is scattered across the country. The office is loud and annoying interruptions or small talk. Having to focus on projects while having this used to give me so much anxiety. I would go home drained. Now with open seating I dread it even more. When there was reserved seating for contractors when I started years ago, I ended up in cafeterias and common areas. There wasn’t enough seats! I’m dreading a return to office but I love my team and I know I am valuable and they need me. I just don’t know if that’s enough to keep working with useless stress longterm. Such a shame, so many things that cause wells to really miss out on great talent. Open seating really makes me feel like a bu-t in the seat rather than a talented human.

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Post ID: @rxt+1fbO33La

WFH 1000%

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Post ID: @zmf+1fbO33La

WFH is much more productive. Barely any people to meet in office anyway. Most importantly - if you use a dual screen which I think the large majority do, you can not do that in a meeting room.

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Post ID: @bsv+1fbO33La

I prefer working from wherever I can be relaxed, focused, and productive. That has rarely, if ever, been in a corporate office, let alone one with an open floor plan.

Plus, requiring me to carve out an additional 2 hours of my life and pay for the gas to burn during it is pretty lame. Those are hours that don't count in "total compensation" but are hours that folks give as required, just to have a job.

If my job can be done remotely, and I meet or exceed expectations, what's the problem? I should be allowed to work from anywhere if I'm getting the job done. Just cause I make it look easy and fun doesn't mean I should be punished, it means I'm a damn good employee regardless of where I sit.

WF needs to get ahead of the death of corporate office space, not try and force employees to subsidize it.

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Post ID: @kfg+1fbO33La

Wfh, I’m more productive and can work more hours and the money I save in gas and parking helps make sure my family has all of our basic needs (shelter, water, food, clothes).

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Post ID: @fyy+1fbO33La

I would prefer a work week that only required 2 days in the office as I like getting out of the house but also appreciate the amount of time saved by not having to commute

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Post ID: @jwt+1fbO33La

Eh, I didn't care one way or the other, but I do save an hour every day not having to prepare to go in. and not having to be as sober since I wasn't driving in was a bonus.

Again, with no team onsite, it didn't/doesn't make a difference.

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Post ID: @upe+1fbO33La

Working from home means I get to see my wife and children for more hours of the day. It also means that I get to choose when I will allow myself to be interrupted, rather than sitting in an open concept office and being _continually_ interrupted.

I've been working from home for over six years. I never want to return to the office. I will change careers before I return to a software development office.

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