Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Layoffs Every 6 Months is Destroying This Company

By having layoffs every 6 months to a year, the following problems have been created:

  1. Very Junior workforce that has little industry or technical knowledge
  1. Loss of training hours and resources as skilled employees are removed
  1. Loss of moral and motivation that allows work to flow smoothly (huge loss of resource hours)
  1. Constant rework as priorities shift with the changing leadership
  1. Lost data repositories, processes, code understanding,, and Cisco-specific knowledge and tooling (and the resource hours required to build those tools)
  1. Interconnected relationships (Cisco is a relationship company - you need to know who to go to to get things done. If you don't have the right connections built in, between teams, because everyone is junior and new - work flows slowly.)
  1. Customer engagement (most employees who are LRed do not look favorably upon Cisco or cisco products and do not purchase them or speak favorably about them once in other companies).
  1. Competitive advantage - many employees take thier Cisco knowledge to competitors. Some even get together in LRs and MAKE direct competitors.

This is not a good business practice. It is destroying Cisco.

You build a business by building people.

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"Who tf uses a phone"

Says the imbecile using his phone to reply. Gosh Cisco really has plenty of deadwood. You know your iPhone is a phone? Probably not smart enough to figure that one out.

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Post ID: @3hzf+1fj2Byyq

Phone? Who tf uses a phone. Get outta here old timer.

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Post ID: @3tog+1fj2Byyq

If you get an invite for an unexpected 1:1 from your boss, ignore it. Don't join. Don't answer "are you there" messages on Teamspace. Let your phone go to voicemail. But keep submitting work material though! If you play dead long enough, they'll eventually find another poor soul.

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Post ID: @2mog+1fj2Byyq

Good. Get out crybabies and make room for us millennials.

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Post ID: @2rcv+1fj2Byyq

so LR will be over webex? how cold 'n cruel to do this to loyal employees!

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Post ID: @2rtx+1fj2Byyq

Did anybody get notice from their 1 on 1's today?

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Post ID: @1ibu+1fj2Byyq

The talent rotation program is being forced on unfavored engineers, so there is no pip or LR (advantage Cisco and the managers as they get promoted every time afterward ... that’s why the current Cisco logo is a “2 middle fingers” sign instead of the S.F. bridge)

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Post ID: @1bxq+1fj2Byyq

Nobody on the ELT cares about this lame list loaded with buzzwords and virtue signaling. Newsflash ace: they know this dud of a company is barely limping along so they are milking every penny they can out of it.

If I was a senior executive I would be on this site every day, laughing at the peons posting this drivel while lighting my cigar with a benjamin.

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Post ID: @1wda+1fj2Byyq

I just got my invite. Fu-k this fu----g place! If they layoff good AMs like me their revenue is just going to get worse. Fu----g id--ts!!!!!

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Post ID: @1zpz+1fj2Byyq

I just want to wish everyone luck tomorrow. Blood bath sounds exactly right. I’m sure it will work out for the best!

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Post ID: @1fjf+1fj2Byyq

Two of my team mates got there’s but I haven’t gotten one yet. Do you think I’m safe or are they still being sent?

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Post ID: @1ans+1fj2Byyq

I’m in IT and got one for tomorrow. My manager doesn’t know what it’s about but he got one too!

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Post ID: @1ssh+1fj2Byyq

Got my 15 minute 1:1 invite! In CX. Any word on the package??

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Post ID: @1rvu+1fj2Byyq

Points 5 & 6 are very valid.

I was LR'd back in the great purge of '11 and came back as a contractor in '13 on a different team. Suddenly something I had automated and had in place for the original team stopped working and they reached out to me to get me to help them fix it.

My Cisco manager and I both laughed at them and said he said they need to figure it out. It was documented on your wiki before I left. If you didn't bother to maintain it, or even keep the data as you migrated to a new wiki system, that's on you. I have work to do for the BU that pays my SOW and there isn't budget to fix your problems.

Best new boss ever. Still later, one of the servers that I had managed the refresh for 5 yrs prior came up for refresh again. IT tried to reach out to me to see if it was still needed, and work out the refresh details. Luckily I had enough relationships that I knew who would have needed that system and pointed IT to the appropriate manager/team to figure all that sh-t out.

Unfortunately, unless your relationships go up the management chain, they don't protect you from LR's. I managed to get converted a second time due to my relationships and subsequently LR'd again due to the lack of relationships with VP/SVPs. And the funny thing was, point 5 bit them in the a-s less than a year later as me and the other guy who got LR'd together were the one's that setup a lot of background automation that just "made things work".

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Post ID: @1mgp+1fj2Byyq

I find the comments about unexpected 1:1's for tomorrow (the morning of the earnings call) to be highly suspicious. Not that it means that you're being LR'd, but that you're lying about the meeting.

When I was LR'd, our manager sent the team an email telling the team to watch/listen to the earnings call that afternoon and provided us w/ the link to it. During the earnings call CR announced the large layoff. Within 10 min of the end of the earnings call, my manager sent me my unexpected 1:1 invitation for the next morning with no other info and ghosted my email/text messages asking what it was about. By looking at the team's calendars to see free/busy times, I was able to see who else had 1:1's with the manager.

There's no way they're telling you BEFORE the earnings call.

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Post ID: @1api+1fj2Byyq

Seriously, why does anybody with an ounce of self-respect work at this Nortel wanna-be? I get the old-timers hanging to retire, but what is the attraction for the new blood? This place brands your resume as having aligned "obsolete technology".

I would much rather be at a legacy company like Oracle. What gives?

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Post ID: @1ppd+1fj2Byyq

What org?

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Post ID: @1qbn+1fj2Byyq

Wish they would have another ER. There may be more takers this time around as payroll remains stagnant at Cisco in the face of inflation.

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Post ID: @1yfe+1fj2Byyq

My entire team and so far five people I know in other orgs have gotten invites too. Going to be a blood bath

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Post ID: @1jri+1fj2Byyq

I have just received late night unexpected 1:1 with my manager for tomorrow. 😕

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