Thread regarding IBM layoffs

You mean nothing

I busted my a-s for IBM for close to two decades and I never got a thank you. To them, you and somebody who's been at the company for a day are the same. All the time I spent there meant nothing when they decided to cut costs. I was kicked out on my bu-t without a second thought. It took me a while to find a new job but I did in the end. It's a much smaller company and they appreciate what I bring to the table. IBM did me a favor in the end.

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Post ID: @OP+1fkttl4Z

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Bruh, I’ve been a band 9 for 6 years, got a raise every year, and at least some sorta bonus. You must not have worked that hard.

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Post ID: @ddic+1fkttl4Z

did they pay you for that work or were you doing charity!You dont need no stinking thank you.Now GTFO

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Post ID: @ccgh+1fkttl4Z

Or do you mean "you mean everything to us - just that it contingent on company profits - and not at all on efforts"?

That is closer.

Or team has been busting their a-s for 5-8+ years with no raises. Why no raises? Because most band 9 - and at IBM you only get a raise with a promotion - and that's rare at Band 9 (just a rare field of band 10).

All other companies rewarded effort and also meeting some reasonable goals - whereas IBM rewards nothing (but expects everything) but GDP.

So for such a huge and diverse company - busting my a-s for no reward unless the whole company moves (and as is constrained also by previous decisions).

Coming from a better company - I know this - and will leave soon (now that I know that IBM has no rewards for contributions (but still expects "relentless execution")). But most long timers - well - don't know that other companies are/can be better.

As for "dinobabies" - just as it is always easy for any replacement to totally trash somebody laid off - it is easy for HR et al to call anyone old a parasite - whether (or mostly not) they are. And once gone ... same deal ... new guy(s) get to bash the old (dev) and HR gets to call victory. "good thing we got new guys - because that appeared HARD" i.e. no backside response.

With all due respect to long timers - who grew up with a different culture - and didn't pick up on the changes - well, sort it out and make your decisions or moves.

Myself? I'm playing a very strategic "game." I learned a long time ago (so should you) to manage your career. well duh. The important thing is a plan. If you have a plan and are executing it - then you can put up with a LOT with a smile - knowing you're executing your plan (generally to leave - but on your own terms; could also be to retire - but on your own terms).

  • been expecting our group to have been "Ginnie'd off" for quite some time. Not sure about Arvind - other than "fuggettabout raises or bonuses". But at least I'm consciously playing "the game" on my terms.
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Post ID: @cctu+1fkttl4Z

IBM sucks, you would be better off somewhere else.

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Post ID: @2uip+1fkttl4Z

You musta sücked if you never got a raise or thank you. And why did you stay for two decades without one.

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Post ID: @1rpb+1fkttl4Z

Why would anyone stay at any company for decades?! Get what you need to get from one place and move on

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Post ID: @1fom+1fkttl4Z

Wrong! A new person, regardless of how inexperienced, is more valuable to IBM than someone who was here for 20 years. You’re just a dinobaby that needs to be pushed out. Ibm s-cks!!!

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Post ID: @qrj+1fkttl4Z

Right on, my man!!!

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Post ID: @bfp+1fkttl4Z

"To them, you and somebody who's been at the company for a day are the same."

Not true. At a certain age and service, you are old and in the way. The new employees are "valuable" as they have the right "skills mix."

You definitely are better off elsewhere.

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Post ID: @jos+1fkttl4Z

Same here

Go with a small company

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