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Serious RTO question

So let's say I show up at an office 3/16 and all of the unassigned spaces are taken. What then? Find a table or chair somewhere and park it for the day or head back home? Or are there enough unassigned spaces at the larger offices that this won't be an issue?

Obviously I can ask my manager, but I know there has to be others in this same situation, and I'm generally curious to know what everyone's thoughts are.

If it helps, I don't have any coworkers in the same city/building as me, but WFH is expiring, meaning I will be looking for a new "home."

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Post ID: @OP+1fqsB8be

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Why don't you take the training that's available? That will answer your question.

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Post ID: @2uxk+1fqsB8be

@1wij+1fqsB8be

True. Still, if those that have flexibility actually take advantage of it, they'll be more seating available for the 9-5 crowd.

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Post ID: @1gts+1fqsB8be

Will they really have those touchscreen seating maps to find our neighborhood like in the RTO video? I noticed that Covid doesn’t exist on the touchscreen so you are safe to use your bare finger. The same goes for opening doors to enter the building. No safety protocols needed. Just touch the bars and handles with your bare hands after multiple people have also touched them. However, elevator buttons do harbor the virus so you must use the handy tool as provided in your Covid box.

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Post ID: @1wug+1fqsB8be

@1qqv+1fqsB8be
Many employees have a range of time they can use their badges. Not all of them are 24/7.

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Post ID: @1wij+1fqsB8be

Start at 4am, claim the best corner you can find, and head home at noon. No worries about finding cubes or traffic.

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Post ID: @1qqv+1fqsB8be

So I drive 75 miles one way, pay $40 for downtown parking, slog a few blocks over to the WF building, and then can't find a cube.....?

I'll then slog back to the parking ramp, grit my teeth over the $40 loss, drive another 2 hours home.

For what...? Gas is expensive. Parking fees are not an option. There's no mass transit here. Time has value, too.

Part of the deal that I was given was that being a telecommuter enabled me to avoid all those costs, hence the lower pay.

Now they rip up that agreement without regard to compensating for the "lower pay because you can work from home" part.

Bait and switch.

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Post ID: @1olo+1fqsB8be

@taw+1frOFj2G
They didn't waste their workday, they just have to work that much longer. Drive time is not paid for.

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Post ID: @1rxu+1fqsB8be

uhhhh, the last place I want to be 3 weeks from now is in neighborhood seating that is full. Oh, that's right, the virus is officially over.

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Post ID: @1frh+1fqsB8be

The complex I worked in had two complete floors and half of the third set up for neighborhoods in one building. I am pretty sure other buildings in the complex were set up the same way.

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Post ID: @1phl+1fqsB8be

The building I will be reporting to has a capacity planner who's responsible for coordinating space availability with the managers. The managers are responsible for telling their staff to report to work when (hybrid). I am used to hotelling from my previous job and we never had issues with no seats. Trust me, people will gravitate to the same spot and if someone takes that spot, oh boy. That's the only issue I have experienced.

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Post ID: @1opg+1fqsB8be

@voz+1fqsB8be, That’s a really good point. I commute from the burbs to the city but trains on my line run all day, just less frequently midday. But in other parts of my metro area, buses run only during rush hour and only in the peak direction to downtown. Guessing they either didn’t think of this scenario or they just don’t care.

As for “credit” towards your three days in the office, as far as I’m concerned, @con+1fqsB8be is right and @pvn+1fqsB8be is wrong. Remember, you’ve badged in before you start looking for a cube. Sure, they can tell by location data when you go back home, but they’ll also have badge/location data for the same day to show the office was full. If WF expects people to try up to 5 times a week without success, they’d better be ready to reimburse folks for time/gas/transit fare cost of two wasted round-trip commutes, exempt employees included, because no one’s job description includes commuting!

Make no mistake, if this sort of thing happens on a large scale, and WF’s response is poor, you’ve got another massive PR disaster and maybe class action suits.

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Post ID: @1nfk+1fqsB8be

Corporate simps, please work really hard for snack trains, black and white paper certificates, $25 corporate chain "food" gift cards, and pizza fun daze. usa, usa

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Post ID: @1zrf+1fqsB8be

This is the point. Management is thinking that the people who actually want to keep their job are going to start showing up earlier, taking initiative to be in the office when they're required to be there. Play the game or lose.

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Post ID: @qut+1fqsB8be

Some of us who use public transportation from the suburbs to downtown locations, cannot simply go back home. My bus route only has 2 return trips around noonish, and then a full schedule starting at 3:00. Once i am downtown, that is where i’m at, unless the company wants to pay for my Lyft/Uber ride home.

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Post ID: @voz+1fqsB8be

As far as I'm concerned, once I have badged in, I have put a "tick-mark" by one of my days. I will definitely look for an available cube, but will not make repeated daily attempts to satisfy a poorly managed overall RTO process.

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Post ID: @con+1fqsB8be

No worries, just head back home and try again the next day but leave a little earlier. You have 5 attempts so you are likely to get your 3 days in if you are persistent.

(note, non-serious answer to your legit question)

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Post ID: @pvn+1fqsB8be

I wouldn't count on being able to stay in a cube the full day if you get one. The pushy broads will go full Karen to claim a cube, no matter when they get there.

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Post ID: @tzf+1fqsB8be

As a manager I’ve told my people they can head home if this happens. But honestly I don’t know if that’s acceptable, and I also get why they’d be ticked off if they commuted 45 minutes or more and basically have to turn around as soon as they get in, wasting half their workday. I don’t understand why we aren’t letting people reserve cubes ahead of time, and if they don’t show up by a certain time they get released.

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Post ID: @dam+1fqsB8be

The area I'm located in has ~500 cubes for ~ 600 team members.....er drones so the chances of there not being a landing spot are slim since everyone is on the 3/2 plan. That said, there are six "neighborhoods" and you are supposed to stay in your neighborhood.

If your assigned neighborhood is full, then you are free to plunk down wherever.

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Post ID: @iza+1fqsB8be

I have been told to go home if no space available. Depending on your location/site if they are set up for already for unassigned and how many of those spaces are available. I think the larger sites there will be more spaces but again more people going in trying to get the same seat.

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