Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

“We strongly believe in the benefits of seeing our colleagues on a regular basis,” Powell wrote in the memo.

Interpretation:

“We strongly believe in the benefits of dominating, manipulating and intimidating our employees on a regular bases.”

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Post ID: @OP+1fsNNJXI

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Cubicles made sense pre-Wachovia. Employees became dispersed after that acquisition/merger. Somehow we've managed to work like that for years, but suddenly for some reason it's not okay.

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Post ID: @5kob+1fsNNJXI

These threads are getting quite some traction. The problem is that 60% of people are already back in the office or never left and as SVB said last week, we're happy to listen to different points of view but in most cases, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I took option 2 and my last day is the 11th - there really are only two choices and no amount of waxing lyrical about the pros and cons will make any difference.

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Post ID: @5skc+1fsNNJXI

There is benefit, if you’re actually in a location where you get to work with colleagues. That benefit gets diluted with every member of your team that is somewhere else. Even with the location strategy, the vast majority of teams are just too dispersed to make forcing people into the office effective. I predict that we’ll spend a few months in a flurry of activity trying to get this to work, and by end of year all the formal structure will have gone away because it’s just not worth it.

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Post ID: @5wcw+1fsNNJXI

It's all about perception. They have created this perception that it is better to be back in the office. The more they say it, their hopes are that it will be believed. They are stupid.

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Post ID: @5jyj+1fsNNJXI

@vhh the unfortunate thing is they have nothing better to do; they can't get it up anymore.

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Post ID: @5kdq+1fsNNJXI

Amendment: "“We strongly believe in the benefits of seeing our distributed colleagues on a regular basis via Microsoft Teams while sitting at our cubicles in our designated and distributed office locations. Please remove the electrical tape covering your cameras, remember to keep your video and microphone unmuted at all times, and enable Together mode for the full experience! Also, please make sure you have joined your group's Watercooler Chat Team. Attendance will be tracked and considered during your performance reviews.”

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Post ID: @1rdz+1fsNNJXI

@ehb+1fsNNJXI - There is a benefit, but not when we’re treated like inmates and told when to be in the building, which building to be in, what neighborhood to go to, and everyone is assigned a locker.

Forcing this kind of interaction is unnatural, unnecessary, and harmful in every way I can imagine.

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Post ID: @1asf+1fsNNJXI

Been WFH entire time at WF (9+ yrs) and won’t go into an office with not only no teammates but also very few WF people (less than 50) … ready to leave if that’s what it comes to

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Post ID: @edi+1fsNNJXI

Um, my colleagues are scattered.

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Post ID: @asu+1fsNNJXI

I strongly disagree with that. I would be happy and able to do my job with never seeing a coworker again. And on top of that I would be safe and not have to live in poverty due to the extra financial burden

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Post ID: @xyy+1fsNNJXI

Oh for crying out loud. Yes, they're pushing a message and policy. It isn't wrong.

And of course there should be options and flexibility. Pre-covid I went to the office nearly every day. I worked from home when I felt like it. Thing is, nobody I worked with was in my office (or even city for that matter), so it made no difference where I worked from. There IS a benefit to being in the office with colleagues.

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Post ID: @ehb+1fsNNJXI

I've been full-time remote for many years, and I have no intention of returning to work in an office - for the reasons discussed over and over on this forum.

I will say, however, that some people really do need to work face-to-face with fellow employees - as a reboot of their manners. The language some people use in emails is toxic. I think they forget that there's a person on the receiving end of their rude comments. People are writing things in chat or email that they would never say to someone's face.

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Post ID: @rdw+1fsNNJXI

Ok. Pay for my Indian colleges to come over for some good ol fashioned Team Building Events.

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Post ID: @yfr+1fsNNJXI

It's terrible to come into the office and then have your internet monitored and screen monitoring software that everyday takes pictures of your desktop. Tape a post it note over the camera too.

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Post ID: @nql+1fsNNJXI

Our leadership is even terrible at doublespeak. They typically come across as hypocritical and dishonest (because they are).

Doublespeak:

“Doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, disguises and distorts. Doublespeak is primarily meant to make the truth sound more palatable.”

“The great enemy of clear communication is insincerity, where there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims.”

What is really important in the world of doublespeak is the ability to lie, and to get away with it.

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Post ID: @gpd+1fsNNJXI

What a bunch of god-awful bs. Made me throw up in my mouth just reading it. Please god let one of these remote opportunities come through for me. I won’t even negotiate the offer. I just want out.

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Post ID: @xvn+1fsNNJXI

So leave, FFS.

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Post ID: @can+1fsNNJXI

Your interpretation / translation of corporate speak (aka BS) is accurate. They are just a bunch of old white guys trying to control the peons. Nothing new, but still distressing. Seems awful cultish too.

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