I really think the leadership and higher levels of management should exclude themselves from making the universal decision to get everyone back into the office. I mean those people have no idea what it's like in the offices, and how people actually work. They don’t know who sits next to who, who collaborates with who, nor do they know what teams perform better in the offices and which teams perform better while working from home.
On the other hand, performance is measurable. If there is any evidence that the performance of a certain team or employee has dropped while working from home, by all means, get him back into the office. If not, what benefit is there to make a person do what he doesn’t want to do. In any case I think the RTO decision should be left to the lower management and should not be universal.
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If THAT'S the measure, all the execs should be in the office 7 days a week. Sure as he-l aren't any "highly skilled" people in that group.
You all heard Saul in last ama. Full time remote is not going to happen at this company...wait. people HAVE been approved for full time remote. But no. Not THIS company. Hold up. Some got FT WFH bcuz they are highly skilled. The rest of us slugs back to the office! Wells Fargo is a bank. Not a tech company. And they don't care about us
I can tell you've never been a low level manager. No one cares about any of the things you claim they care about. Or, more accurately, very very few care. I'm sure there's a few id--ts out there, just like there are in the IC crowd.
Because management didn't get where they are by sitting at home alone, so they think this is the way for others. Quick, how many people do you know that have been promoted over the last two years?
OP, you're thinking about results other than voluntary attrition, and if you want to understand the executives, you really shouldn't. There's literally no negative outcomes that concern them more than getting people to quit voluntarily. It explains every action since the CEO came onboard.
@ogf+1gEOSNxp, Compensations?? Like what? Losing high-performing employees because they were reassigned to a different office, tripling their commute even though they work with no one in the new location, and I can’t do a dang thing about it?? And remote bullying - what?? My employees and I are all in different locations, far from each other. If I wanted to bully them, it’d be much easier if we weren’t each offline commuting three days a week.
As a “lower level manager”, I push back however I can. But keep in mind, I’m in the same boat as any individual contributor. I hate RTO and see the very negative impacts to my and my team’s productivity and work/life balance. All I can say is that the net impact is negative: Increased attrition, and no gains in collaboration since we aren’t co-located. Good managers are very unhappy because now we have no discretion.
When do any executives know what's going on tye ground floor of any large corp? Is this your first job?
Lower level managers will never push back against RTO. There are too many compensations for them. They get to micro-manage, exclude people, bloviating to a captive audience, and enjoy having the brown-nosers fawning all over them. Remote bullying is better than nothing, but it’s not really the same when you can’t see the look of fear on your victim’s face.
I was in the office last week (an office where not a single one of my co-workers sits) and I turned to someone I don't know 2 aisles away and asked her if she would like to collaborate with me. She looked startled and a bit scared... "no....thank you" and turned back to her laptop :)
It is pretty simple: they don't care.
RTO has zero to do with performance, or individuals or teams.
They want to make people miserable enough to quit so they can reduce headcount without paying severance.
It’s not universal. High earners and friends of friends are allowed to work at home and exceptions are being made for special ones and it has nothing to do with medical. Bottom line…they can do if for who they want to do it for. The blanket policy for all was total BS.