Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Fed-up managers declare WFH is over, as 77% say they’d fire you or cut your pay for not coming back to the office

But with warnings of a recession ahead, those workers who take their chances now by
ignoring return-to-the-office mandates may find themselves to be at the top of the
layoff list down the line—if not sooner.

Can't wait until all those self-entitled whiny snowflakes who believe that WFH is a right not a privilege finally get RA'd.

https://fortune.com/2022/04/07/remote-work-from-home-is-over-firing-pay-cut/

Working from home. It was fun while it lasted?

About three out of five managers believe that remote work is on the wane and workers will be back in the office full-time by the end of this year.

And they’re apparently prepared to use some tough tactics to get workers back at their desks.

About 77% of managers said they’d be willing to implement “severe consequences”—including firing workers or cutting pay and benefits—on those who refuse to return to the office, according to a recent survey by employment background check company GoodHire of 3,500 American managers.

Although many surveys have shown that the majority of workers prefer remote and hybrid work structures, most managers still believe in-person work is best. Former Google CEO and chairman Eric Schmidt even recently weighed in about the return-to-work debate, saying that it's important people be at the office and he's happy the remote era seems to be ending. "I don’t know how you build great management [with remote work]. I honestly don’t," he said. And about half of managers, 51%, genuinely believe that their workers want to return to the office.

“Clearly, managers are struggling,” said Max Wesman, GoodHire’s chief operating officer. “Organizations that find a work arrangement that satisfies the majority of their workforce will benefit in the areas of recruitment, productivity, employee satisfaction, and retention.”

Workers may have more say in their job structure amid labor shortage

When companies announce return-to-office plans, workers don’t have a lot of choice but to comply. Unless a worker was specifically hired for a remote position, they are probably required to work out of the office at least part of the time.

Some workers (particularly those with health issues including an immunocompromised system, chronic kidney disease, serious heart conditions, diabetes, and obesity who may be more vulnerable to COVID-19 infections) may be able to get remote work accommodations under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and state regulations, but that typically requires a formal review process.

It's worth noting that only about 10% of employed Americans worked remotely in March because of COVID, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Over half of workers, 50.9%, reported being already required to return in-person full-time, according to Workhuman’s April Human Workplace Index, a monthly survey of 1,000 full-time U.S. workers.

But just because a company wants to head back to the office doesn’t mean it always goes smoothly. Financial giant Goldman Sachs, for example, reopened its New York headquarters in February and mandated its 10,000 employees return. Only about half showed up on the first day.

That’s because despite the threats of severe consequences, workers do have some leverage right now thanks to the ongoing worker shortage. The U.S. had 11.3 million open jobs available in February, and that number hasn’t really wavered in recent months. So rather than spend a lot of time, effort, and money replacing noncompliant employees right now, some employers are letting it ride.

But with warnings of a recession ahead, those workers who take their chances now by ignoring return-to-the-office mandates may find themselves to be at the top of the layoff list down the line—if not sooner.

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In our Agile Squad standup my FLM asked about blockers when I told him his response was ok, good luck.

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Post ID: @4kpn+1gbU5TEl

My last 1st line manager was worthless. Never called me and rarely knew what I did and how I did it!!! Just amazing!!!

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Post ID: @4bqc+1gbU5TEl

maybe because people working from home don't actually need a manager and the first liners are panicking, shown for what they are needless.

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Post ID: @4lqh+1gbU5TEl

I wouldn’t mind going to the office to work with my team, but only 2 of my teammates are in the same location. 3 others are across the US and 2 will be in India. I’m going to be on webex most of the day whether I’m in the office or at home either way. Make it make sense.

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Post ID: @3tfj+1gbU5TEl

OK BÔÔMER

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Post ID: @2urt+1gbU5TEl

Work from NYC office you say? No thanks, you have fun though.

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At least 10 people were shot and over a dozen suffered other injuries when a gunman opened fire on a subway train in Brooklyn, New York, on Tuesday morning, authorities said. Some people were being treated for smoke inhalation from a smoke bo-b and other injuries from the panic that ensued, the fire department said.

New York Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said the suspect was described as a Black male, approximately 5 feet, 5 inches tall with a heavy build who was wearing a green construction-type vest and a gray hooded sweatshirt.

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Post ID: @2szd+1gbU5TEl

Why would I go in to the office ? I'm the one remote guy on a project based somewhere else and my manager only talks to me twice a year anyways. This company is screwed up in so many ways but allowing WFH is not one of them.

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Post ID: @2ijg+1gbU5TEl

I can see the headline: “IBM employees holed up in homes refusing to work at office - WTF are these snowflakes thinking”
You 20-something old farts better watch your as--s. We’ve got lists of high school python rock stars ready to take your places for next to nothing.

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Post ID: @2gco+1gbU5TEl

Please stop reading the news and listen to your employer. Recession coming will mean less jobs. If you are going to change then do it yesterday. When the music stops, there will be fewer seats.

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Post ID: @1xnt+1gbU5TEl

As expected, the useless middle management wants to end WFH so they can justify their existence and stroll around the office playing manager.

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Post ID: @1gee+1gbU5TEl

Most people have jobs that you can't do from home. Like manufacturing, health care, retail, food, construction.

Programmers and 'consultants' and other paper pushers are the biggest whiners out there. Shut up and grow up.

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Post ID: @1bhv+1gbU5TEl

Only a masochist would go back in

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Post ID: @1jfq+1gbU5TEl

Everyone can be replaced, sure. I'm just saying that in most groups, there are 1-2 folks who generally won't be unless their hand is forced. (By your demise or your 2-week notice)

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Post ID: @1fpe+1gbU5TEl

If they tell you to go in you'd better go in. Do you think any manager really believes IBM is doing anything so important that you couldn't be replaced by a recent high school grad?

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Post ID: @1jcm+1gbU5TEl

Stay home, get fired. Come to the office, get laid off. This is IBM; you're screwed!

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Post ID: @1qla+1gbU5TEl

Managers know they need you or the numbers in their ranks are unnecessary. They need a job to do

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Post ID: @1hfd+1gbU5TEl

Who will impose managers to come back to the office. All IBM managers work from home. If that it call work, they usually work 3 hours a day.

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Post ID: @1xhf+1gbU5TEl

And yet here we are, still calling that bluff. Know your worth. You know, deep down, whether you're one who can swing it or not. I'm staying home.

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