Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

How is your relationship with the manager?

Effective managers are typically good delegators. My manager is the opposite of that. I love my job but because of that person I'm thinking of leaving this place. I have tried in every way to communicate with him professionally, but it is impossible. BNY Mellon is actually working against itself by appointing people like this in managerial positions.

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@OP

Better not tell you now

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Post ID: @Qjxm+1gdDTL9L

The relationship with the manager is severed.

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Post ID: @llfp+1gdDTL9L

My manager was such a good delegator that I routinely received 60 hours a week of work. Sometimes I wonder who is getting that now, but not enough to take any calls.

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Post ID: @dzme+1gdDTL9L

In my experience managers generally have no idea what their team is actually focused and working upon and wind up delegating far more work than their team can actually accomplish. The results do speak for themselves.

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Post ID: @ddrl+1gdDTL9L

Why central Florida? There are plenty more low cost East Coast or Midwest cities with many colleges and eager talent nearby. Sorry gators but Lake Mary doesn't offer much for talent, just brown nosers willing to work weekends just to keep their meaningless VP titles....don't need a staff of 50%+ VPs in a lost cost center - defeats the purposes.

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Post ID: @aspy+1gdDTL9L

@ajcw+1gdDTL9L

Perhaps you’ve never worked for a leaderlette and/or leadette before. Give s/h/he/she/shiite a chance. The Florida locations kick bu-t in productivity for far less cost.

The real question is “Why Manhattan?”. They won’t RTO. They’re paid exorbitantly. The facilities cost a fortune and darn hear everywhere in flyover country they’re harder working and far better educated.

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Post ID: @agyu+1gdDTL9L

The Florida office is a major head scratcher... South Florida, perhaps.. but Central makes no sense. What are we, a Walmart?

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Post ID: @anof+1gdDTL9L

My Manhattan base team was reorged into a Central Florida based manager about a year ago (imagine that?? Though admittedly our org is far too expensive). Nevertheless it's embarrassing for us all.... New Manager is not very bright and neither a present, nor effective leadet. It's not that hard to move work to a lower cost center but Florida is NOT the answer.

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Post ID: @ajcw+1gdDTL9L

@9fuz, if it's truly hard to fire someone, it's because of bad management. It's as simple as documenting things they don't do correctly then telling them they're fired. If you want to be nice you could offer to help them formulate a plan to come up to speed but that's not required.

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Post ID: @9rag+1gdDTL9L

To the foolish comments who obviously do not know how difficult it is to fire someone at bny or assume some one they do not know was not a manager, you are the very type of employees that make life unbearable for good managers. I know you will never understand because you will never become a manager at bny. You will also go to work and complain every day about someone or something. Good luck with your unhappy life.

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Post ID: @9fuz+1gdDTL9L

Who? Never heard or talked to my manager in 2 years and still he "signs" off on my performance. What is funny is how this whole organization manages up and not down.

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Post ID: @9xhv+1gdDTL9L

My boss got his entire team laid off except for himself. The only person he tried to keep left. Thats the BNY way.

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Post ID: @6xmg+1gdDTL9L

@3hyn+1gdDTL9

Sure you are. If you were that desirable you wouldn’t be praying for BONY to hire you back.

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Post ID: @6ylz+1gdDTL9L

I should note that the reason your wife did that is she was a supervisor, not a manager. She had no control over who to hire and fire and the people who did were bad at managing.

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Post ID: @6hwc+1gdDTL9L

@6bvp, why didn't she fire them and hire competent people so we didn't have to suffer working with them? THAT was her job, not coddling the riffraff.

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Post ID: @6xqs+1gdDTL9L

My wife was a manager until she left last year for a better job. The employees commenting on here think they are the best thing since sliced bread. I watched her have to baby sit many adults do basic tasks. She always treated them all with respect and compassion. She rewarded them with her own funds on birthdays, holidays, and was accommodating when they had personal issues. She saved many of them from the forced below expectations reviews. I could go on and on but I am sure this post will still get many negative hits because too many people don't want to acknowledge the good managers that were there. The good thing she is happier now that she out of there.

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Post ID: @6bvp+1gdDTL9L

As it turns out my manager was dishonest. I left. I am working on my pricing for when you come begging, as you will. I’ve been down this road before and you haven’t… hope to see you soon for my payday.

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Post ID: @3hyn+1gdDTL9L

Or maybe the issue is incompetent employees. How many sit there all arrogant and act like they’re the greatest and in all actuality they’re awful? Don’t arrive in time, goof off all day, don’t work, always late or always call out. Just because you tell a great story to everyone to sound like you’re not the issue doesn’t make it true. Mgmts job is not to babysit and that’s often what they get stuck doing. Sh-t down roll down to you when you’re not doing what you should . It rolls to them

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Post ID: @3gvn+1gdDTL9L

My manager fcked me pretty good. He (like most people at BNY) looked out for himself while telling me and others we were fine. Our entire group got RIF'd except for him. Ironic part was he was terrible at his job but managed up well. It's the BNY way.

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Post ID: @3deb+1gdDTL9L

My manager has no leadership traits, nor personailty - an overall uninspiring individual who has no business managing a Manhattan based team, having never stepped foot in a city. My interaction is fairly limited unless a more senior person has a question (i.e. demands an answer...NOW!) and everyone is expected to drop what they are doing for even the most basket stuff.

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Post ID: @2aoo+1gdDTL9L

My manager is a very nice person but not cut out for the role. Put in place by higher ups in the US because they know the manager will not push back on the way they want things doing, even if it’s not going to work in EMEA. Handed my notice I. To move to another line of business and they’ve not spoken to me since

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Post ID: @2ntr+1gdDTL9L

2vbx+1gdDTL9L you're describing a person who has no business managing... Anywhere but BNYM that is.

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Post ID: @2egl+1gdDTL9L

Could it be that your manager does not have a strong group of people in which to delegate work to, yet he likes his team personally and does not have the heart to let them go one by one and replace them with more capable persons?

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Post ID: @2vbx+1gdDTL9L

@1exe, you make a strong case.

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Post ID: @1jzg+1gdDTL9L

Are we replacing those who have left with University of Phoenix grads?

  1. “the Layers of management make”
  2. “ conversation with anybody in regard“
  3. appoints people in managerial positions without confirming that they are competent.”
  4. “What manager hasn’t”
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Post ID: @1exe+1gdDTL9L

@1hau+, the layers of management makes perfect sense. If we had 1,000,000 employees...

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Post ID: @1sed+1gdDTL9L

What manager haven't had any conversation with anybody in regards to anything including my review. The layers of "management" is out of control and nobody has actually time to manage down. They only care to manage up !

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Post ID: @1hau+1gdDTL9L

Nonexistent

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Post ID: @1mnt+1gdDTL9L

It’s called the Peter principle

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Post ID: @1nrs+1gdDTL9L

The bank appoints people in managerial positions without confirming if the person is competent. Incompetent managers are the no 1 reason why people leave a team

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Post ID: @1dtu+1gdDTL9L

Poor

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