Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

It's being done. Further, security teams are randomly listening in on conversations through your laptop microphone. Data collected is run through an AI collection utility that reports on "conversations" that have specific criteria, such as mentions of words such as: WFB, customer, boss, CEO, SVB, profanity, etc. I've seen the data, its legit.

@2tyv+1gnVWpb8 even in the case where they only have a door, they will need to scan the card, open the door, scan a card, open the door, scan a card, open the door. Scans are in the external input, but the system also tracks when a door is opened or secured.

Have at it! Spend valuable resources to monitor employees all day, everyday, rather than focusing on the business and our customers. No wonder this place is a complete mess. Who cares at this point. I sure don’t.

If the company can’t seem to get some employees’ office location right, then how will their RTO be tracked? Not their fault their actual approved office work location is not listed correctly, despite discussing it with manager numerous times over many years (and being told it couldn’t be corrected). This is one reason the tracking doesn’t always make a lot of sense.

@2kmz+1gnVWpb8 what @1ijo+1gnVWpb8 is describing are in some buildings but not all.

The gates as described are in charlotte uptown. they are leftover wachovia legacy. I don't think i've seen those elsewhere but others can chime in.

In chandler (which is new-ish construction), it's a revolving door and one badge/one person with badge required to exit.

in both chandler and charlotte there are guards watching the entry/exit.

in many of the older buildings, there's not a badge system to enter the building, the badging is just on individual floors. all of the SF offices are that way. no badge to exit. so someone could do the group- badge thing

what gate or turnstile do you mean? Nothing like that in my assigned building

@okm+1gnVWpb8 extremely unlikely. WF uses anti-passback technology that requires you to walk through the gate or turnstile when you swipe your badge. It's one at a time. There's not way you're going to do what you are insinuating.

Okey Dokey. We get it. Ooooh so scared!

they are 100% doing it, and data is available to the individual name. this is not new - this data/reporting was available 4+ years ago. To the folks talking about badge-scamming by having one person badge multiple people in.... they are also cross referencing IP addresses now.

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How does that work? They sit in front of the security guards scanning a handful of badges? How do they transfer the badges to the next person who does the mass scan?

every company monitors

@okm, I too have heard about that. Downright fraud, is what it is. I’m no RTO fan, but if people are pulling that chit, they deserve whatever happens.

What you really have to worry about is the self-appointed hall monitors that worry about everyone else's schedules instead of working. Beaches need to mind their own business!

Know if at least one group who rotated "badger" duty weekly. 40k could be 5k in reality.

All that tech has been available for years. The badge data was used daily for other reasons. Now it'll be used for the wrong reasons. I've also seen the IP data. So it's not a fairy tale

My local CPG PM relayed a conversation they had with strategic planning: are team members badging in, getting coffee and going home? Umm, yes!
I haven't seen badge readers on inside of suites, so not sure about the badge out count.
SMDH, our current management is bat s**t crazy.

I was in a recent meeting with corporate properties and someone said weekly badge swipes are up around 40k distinct employees from before the RTO. It sounded like a single swipe counts for the week.

It really sounded like relief, almost like they were not expecting it to be that high, but I could be wrong.

I am in a massive building complex and no one is there. 40,000 where?

@egv I used to badge in and just leave. Now, you have to badge out. Ugh! Oh well!

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What about at building where you only badge in and not out? I’ve been coming in my 3 per week but I have left a couple hours early every now and then to avoid rush hour and finish off the work day at home. I’d hope they wouldn’t split hairs on something like that as long as I wasn’t over-abusing it. But without IP address tracking or badging out there’d be nothing to stop somebody from leaving at lunch every single day they come in… or if they live in walking distance just strolling by, hitting the badge reader and then heading home again.

Computer location is logged, but not monitored. Badge swipes are and will continue to be monitored.

I went to a GitHub site in another country, and got dinged by it from the fusion center.

They can see what you had up on your screen and where your mouse was if they want. IP locations and badge swipe data is not hard. Whether your bottom rung manager sees it or cares is a different question. Convince yourselves all you want that nothing will happen, and you might be right, but to think that they don’t already have the data they need to fire a ton of people for cause for not returning to office when it was required if they so choose is blind ignorance. The only questions are do they want that many people, those specific people gone, and when/how.

I know for a fact badge swipes are now being reported.

Not going back into a building where there has been a COVID outbreak. I am not sure if they are monitoring those data points as well. They should be, because that determines if people are going back into the office. If they are looking for a lawsuit, that is cool.

The actually reactivated an old badge of mine instead of the new one they had issued prior to COVID. They can't get anything right.

It's occurring. it is a matter of fact. The Cyber Threat Fusion Center (CTFC) has the access and its part of their charter today. You would be shocked (most of you) at the length of their capabilities. There is nothing within WFB that is on the wire that isn't being harvested and can be dispositioned (at a later date) as needed. Call it fraud protection, or anything you want, it is being done. Emails, IM's, Skype and Teams calls "anything across the wire" is being harvested and is available for analysis. Nothing is sacred within WFB. But.....this is probably true everywhere at this point.

You think it’s some superhuman task to pull badge logins? The information gets logged to a database. You thrn run a query to extract said data. The query is then plugged into a graphical tool like Tableau or Grafana where pretty pictures can entertain executives. You click on the pretty pictures to dive into the details and/or export it out. The amount of effort is incredibly small and reports have been out there in these tools for at least five years. Reporting out is about the easiest step of the entire badging process.

it is being done, give some data feeds to some data scientists and they will produce some pretty good info quickly. it isn't difficult data and not that many data points. I would also point out that the badge issue you are describing has probably more to do with the number of badge requests they were dealing with on top of supply chain issues.