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Wells Fargo projects it will save $1 billion over the next 10 years by migrating to the public cloud, according to a top exec

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Wells Fargo's move to the cloud could save the bank as much as $1 billion over the next decade, one of the bank's top tech executives told Insider.
After revealing the outlines of what the firm called a new "digital infrastructure strategy" last fall, Wells Fargo is gearing up to retire much of its on-premise tech stack and kick off a multi-cloud migration. Chintan Mehta, Wells Fargo's chief information officer and head of digital technology & innovation, said that while the efforts will involve "heavy capital outlay," time savings is the target.
Wells has forged partnerships with both Microsoft Azure, who now serves as Wells' primary public cloud provider, and Google Cloud, and will also rely on third-party data centers. Azure will bear the bulk of the bank's cloud tools, including those that face customers and employees alike. But Google Cloud will handle its "advanced workloads," which includes its efforts in big data and artificial intelligence.
Wells Fargo CIO Chintan Mehta
Chintan Mehta, the chief information officer and head of digital technology and innovation at Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo
As part of a renewed focus on digital tech, Wells Fargo has also touted a new virtual assistant — aptly named Fargo — that's slated for launch at the end of this year.
Behind the scenes, Mehta and his team are re-architecting a key data platform that the bank uses to personalize online customer experiences and anticipate customer needs. Putting the so-called customer experience engine on the public cloud will allow the bank to scale the platform and perform "billions" of calculations a day while still protecting data, Mehta said.
Rebuilding Wells Fargo tech stacks for the public cloud — where the bank will need to rewire its security and privacy protocols — will involve "heavy capital outlay" and "heavy opex outlay," Mehta said. But the end goal, however, is time savings.
"Money is one part of it, but then the amount of time you end up expending and building out an infrastructure before something productive happens on it shrinks significantly when you have something like cloud," he said.
Wells Fargo's move to the cloud comes as Wall Street powerhouses embrace the technology. Banks, once hesitant to make the jump to the public cloud, have deepened relationships with Big Tech firms providing the infrastructure. Meanwhile, buy-side firms like hedge funds, asset managers, and private equity firms have also widely opened up to the tech. Cloud is now playing a critical role in how these firms scale compute capacity, use and find data.
The nation's
largest banks
have long signaled the importance of the cloud as a driver of both innovation and, crucially, efficiency. It's equally about ripping and replacing legacy tech as it is about spurring new innovation. Other firms like Bank of America have also pegged the cost savings tied to cloud projects in the billions of dollars. In 2019, Bank of America said it saved roughly $2 billion by forgoing partnerships with big cloud providers like Google and Microsoft to build its own private clouds, although the bank has since partnered with IBM on public cloud efforts.
As Wall Street integrates the public cloud into its tech stacks it's begun to experience a sea change in how people do their jobs and, subsequently, its talent pool. And Wells Fargo is no exception, as the bank is actively upskilling its employees to reflect its cloud ambitions. The bank is hiring 2,500 technologists to its 42,000-strong tech org this year, the company's chief technology officer, Steve Hagerman, recently told Insider. And it will look to have 50% of its engineers be cloud-certified
Like other banks, Wells Fargo is also no stranger to questions about its spending, especially because the bank has been on a well-publicized mission to cut costs under CEO Charlie Scharf. In January, for example, the bank said it planned to reduce expenses across the firm by $1.6 billion in 2022.
Wells Fargo's chief financial officer, Mike Santomassimo, underscored the evolving nature of the firm's efficiency goals during the bank's first-quarter earnings call this April.
"As I said a number of times over the last couple of quarters, it's not a static program. This is something that we're embedding in the DNA of how we run the place and it continues to evolve, and we feel good about executing on that," Santomassimo told industry analysts.

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Awesome news. That’s only 25 years behind the rest of the mega banks and 15 years behind the Fintechs. The estimate for the cost savings is ludicrous. Costs will grow for 20 years and the value is in the resiliency. Cyber costs will jump massively.

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Post ID: @3gii+1gpSK8S1

@1cbk+1gpSK8S1 - Exactly! I've been yelling this to anyone who will listen. We went from owning the car to leasing it. Folks you don't save money perpetually renting anything. The pressure to get cloud certified now is deafening. Told my manager I want to be in the 50% that isn't certified. Coworker got her certification, it's proctored, need a webcam, need the house to yourself, spent an entire weekend studying. I left college 20 years ago, I don't need another final to take.

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Post ID: @2vus+1gpSK8S1

One nice long outage will be the final nail in the proverbial coffin. Plus, the potential for security compromises will increase substantially.

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Post ID: @2xce+1gpSK8S1

Isn't cloud a way that any good hacker can see what Wells employees are doing? No server to keep our data safe, just fling it up to the skies for any foreign agent to tap into it.

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Post ID: @2wgn+1gpSK8S1

It's just OpEx vs CapEx. For some high spec IaaS needs Microsoft and Amazon both charge stupid high levels of money monthly for their virtual server and EC2 assets, respectively. Serverless is better but still not going to reap that much in savings.

Cloud is not really cheaper. It's just better in many ways (and sometimes not).

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Post ID: @1fwp+1gpSK8S1

the $1 billion savings is on Google's presales deck for all prospects, with an asterisk that states, "Experience may vary."

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Post ID: @1yjm+1gpSK8S1

Many apps that move to a public cloud should incur additional assessments and require two factor authentication. But what we're seeing now are changes to policy so that these costs don't occur. IT management just ignores universally accepted info Sec standard now. It's just a matter of time......

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Post ID: @1xjk+1gpSK8S1

Prediction: This flunkie will be proven wrong. And our customers privacy, shareholder returns, public image and employed employees will all suffer.

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Post ID: @1duq+1gpSK8S1

I don't get how they think it'll save $1BB unless somebody has come up with some unrealistic business case. And I had heard at least once that migrating to the cloud isn't primarily done for saving money, it'll likely cost more at least for several years. Heck it might take us 10 years to move to the cloud. lol

I'd love to see that business case.

That said, it's the right thing to do. Beyond all the benefits of cloud (that we can't seem to figure out internally), it is pretty darn expensive to spin up new infrastructure even with on-prem cloud and virtual infrastructure. Move enough stuff and you can get rid of a data center or two.

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Post ID: @1hwl+1gpSK8S1

CM is a category 1 mo--n who has no clue what he is talking about.

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Post ID: @1zrq+1gpSK8S1

This shows you that the people running the show have no clue about what they are talking about. You don't run cloud to save money. In fact, it will probably cost you the same or more than a traditional data center. You move to cloud for business continuity and to shift costs from capital expense to operating expense. If also gives you greater flexibility when you have dramatic increase in demand (think tax season, or Christmas season for merchants).

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Post ID: @1cbk+1gpSK8S1

except it will cost them 2 billion when it has to be redone

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Post ID: @1rhm+1gpSK8S1

Savings that will never come. Bank on it.

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Post ID: @1jsg+1gpSK8S1

Fargo??? Really? Is that the best they can come up with? Why not Yokal or maybe hayseed? I guess it matches the 1970's look and feel of our whole dated maroon brand.

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Post ID: @1gbt+1gpSK8S1

https://www.businessinsider.com/wells-fargo-save-1-billion-over-10-years-public-cloud-2022-4

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Post ID: @1tow+1gpSK8S1

Let them get hacked like capital one.

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Post ID: @1tan+1gpSK8S1

old news

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