Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Just shut up and do the job you were hired to do, under the conditions that you ageed to, by accepting the position.

That’s not possible because they have completely changed the conditions of my employment. And each change took something away that they had agreed to when I started.

I left a few months ago. But many haven’t, so get your facts straight before jumping all over others.

@2tou+1gsaBfVX

What's good for the goose... avoiding accountability is Honeywell managment's core competency while collecting fat bonuses. Your envy is showing big time. If you want a "cushy laptop job", you're going to have to earn it like us heavyweights: experience and paying your dues. For over two years we showed that we could make the place more money and save on overhead by working remote. There is nothing "crybaby" about going to bat for what you want when it's a win-win. That's why you're still waiting for a cushy laptop job and will be for a long, long time. Have fun in the salt mines! I left for a real cushy laptop job and am loving it.

I think they are biding their time until a recession hits, layoffs begin and jobs are more sparse. Then we’ll be back in the office every day.

@2tou

We delayed financial gratification and busted our buns in college (plus or minus grad school) for the privilege of having one of those "cushy overpaid laptop jobs". Stay in your lane, or follow suit if you want to qualify for one.

That was by far was the crappiest communication email yet. I'll wait for something with more substance.

Work from home crybabies are just lazy and want to avoid accountability. I'll be glad to take one of your cushy overpaid laptop jobs.

@1lho+1gsaBfV

Why don’t you get a job at one of those companies you mentioned (Raytheon, ge, spacex, Boeing, Lockheed, L3, starling, SAS)? All your peers appear to work there so perhaps they could put in a word for you?

If you don’t like it leave. Honeywell is a sh---y place - totally agree - so leave?

@1lho...
My God, then why are you still here?

If you have all those better opportunities then why are you staying?
You are staying by your own choices. Yes, you can hate the company - and the rules they have even if they aren't the best - but if you stay it is your choice to follow the rules. I have yet to see one person actually chained to the desk.

I am so glad that I left this dilapidated dinosaur of a company and I hope that all of you will be able to do the same.

There is zero reason for knowledge workers (i.e. people who work and communicate primarily through their computers and phones) to go back to the office on a regular basis. All this does is pull time out of your life for commuting and money from your wallet in the form of gas and car milage among other things. Additionally, keeping you in the office helps keep upward pressure on prices for commercial real-estate while management gets to play power games and pretend like they are doing something useful.

In regards to RTO, notice that the only defense that the company shills and bootlickers can come up with is: "well that's how it's always been so you just need to suck it up and go back to the way things were..." Folks, this in of itself is an incredibly ignorant statement because this approach is not used in anything else that we do. If this mindset was actually practiced elsewhere then we would still be using horses instead of cars, steam engines instead of diesel, and stone tablets instead of computers.

OMG. Just shut up and do the job you were hired to do, under the conditions that you ageed to, by accepting the position.
What I'm actually reading, is, that you were not productive before you got sent to your couch to eat your Cheetohs. So you don't actually deserve the job you have, and the majority of us would be better without you. Go be a detriment to another company, please!

What changed?

1. My office was torn out in favor of open office plans.
2. My team was spread across Honeywell so I have exactly ZERO interaction with people in desk farm I now sit in.
3. My chair is broken
4. My monitors are half the size of what I have at home
5. There are constant distractions as other people are in same boat forced to do all work with remote teams from an open desk
6. Pretty sure I now have hearing damage from wearing headphones providdd by Honeywell nonstop.

So yeah… I do better from home. I would do even better if Honeywell laid me off. But no… I got a block 1 review and a big raise this year for managing those remote teams. Still make less than my peers at Raytheon, ge, spacex, Boeing, Lockheed, L3, starling, SAS, and even lowly snowflake.
I hate this job.
I hate Honeywell.

@1jlw+1gsaBfVX

You must be one of Maddog's favorite manager-protege types with the greatest emotional inteligence, maturity, and comprehension of the current labor and work sitation. Try 100cc's of humanity. Everything changed, unless you've been living under a rock (or in Russia). More than 75% of personnel spent the past two years proving that they can do a better job from home than they do from the dilapidated, mold-covered, musty, ro--h-infested offices. There is no need to go back and waste $4.75/gallon on gas and sit in traffic for hours. Honeywell can't innovate its way out a wet paper bag anyways. So, there is not collaboration to be done in a company whose usefullness to its customers is near its own sunset. DA, Maddog, and the rest of the fossils in e-suite are stuck in their self-centered and outdated office ideas and refuse to listen to what makes their people perform and increases retention. The mass exodus will continue because that's what they want: your job outsourced to a thrid world outhouse so that the company pays less taxes and they get bigger bonuses. What's more pathetic than anything is you trying to yell at grown adults about their valid grievences. You're just another symptom of the Honeywell disease. Evey day, I know I made the right decision to leave the festering boil on the a$$ of humanity that is Honeywell.

Time for all you nonners to get back to the new open offices and shape the future like the rest of us miserable peons. MadDog wants you to be miserable. Plus, we are "better together" remember?

Boo hoo. So sad for you. Cry me a river.

So when you started your job you worked from home or your office? What’s changed? Did they move your office further away? Did you live further away? Suck it up. You knew where your office was and now it’s time to go back.

The amount of tears and whining from people wanting to work from home is amazing. If you don’t like it, quit. There are so many jobs at the moment.

And don’t get me wrong, I hate Honeywell. I think it’s as terribly disgusting company as there is. But this whinging about returning to work is truly pathetic.

I went to flat 41 hrs per week when 3/2 started.
Working to start a business on the side.
I will NEVER travel or work overtime again for honeywell.
(Travel at honeywell is embarrassing to discuss with my vendors.. they used to laugh at me)
Family security comes first.

Not trolling. The email did reference the 3-2 schedules would remain but we all know how much HON hates having happy employees so that will likely end once everyone is back in from their exemptions, which I assume was the target of the email.

So many companies that aren't ran by clowns are offering better benefits and 100% work from home. Meanwhile, while HON is busy smelling its own farts and bragging how cutting edge and leaning forward it is, is requiring employees to drive to a site like it's 1992. It makes no sense to me.

It was addressed to ISC sites. Nothing was said about the 3-2 schedule, but I predict it will come to an end sooner or later. I know for a fact that at least 30% of folks at our site have been abusing the 3-2 or somehow were granted exceptions. They have not been back since the beginning of 2020.

the email says it excludes flex schedules, so maybe the 3/2 is still in place

Trolling? I didn’t get any email.

We’re on a 3-2 schedule now, not sure if that’s the case for all sbgs. If they want us back in the office 5 days per week there will be a flood of people leaving. It’s so easy to find another job.