Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Is IBM a front?

Is anyone else as confused by IBM’s lack of actual products and software? Have you ever tried to purchase software from IBM? The UI is purposefully confusing and if you’re lucky you’ll be linked out to some bootleg looking site like: https://estore.onthehub.com/WebStore/ProductsByMajorVersionList.aspx?cmi_mnuMain=8659da1b-241d-e611-941a-b8ca3a5db7a1&pc=ddc848d8-b4fe-e111-bd05-f04da23e67f6&adoper=174258_0_OT1

I have never seen devs or designers work on a single revenue making product. It’s always prototypes, Lorem ipsum, templates. Never seen so much as a screenshot of an actual product in development. I’ve spoken with salespeople who now mainly sell “trainings” and “consulting”. Who the heck would pay IBM to think for them or help train them? It makes no sense.

Does anyone else feel like they are just making marketing material for a fake company?

Is IBM real? I’m honestly not convinced and it’s driving me crazy.

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Post ID: @OP+1h8BNkuu

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the person posting this is not employed by IBM and a boomer troll. The website is not owned by IBM, and they are just reselling IBM software, like one of the hundreds of business partners. Partner websites are usually terrible, but they get to do what they want as long as IBM gets paid.

If you don't have the ability to understand that the website is not owned by IBM (i.e. on IBM.com domain) and think it's typical for IBM to sell $40 software, you're completely clueless.

Big blue is optimized for complex high value deals where executives with big pocketbooks are involved. IBM provides some self-serve options just to say they have it, they want you to talk to a sales rep.

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Post ID: @6hcq+1h8BNkuu

Probably same as everyone else: Look interested, collect paychecks, play pocket pool under their desk.

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Post ID: @6ngf+1h8BNkuu

What exactly do you do at IBM OP?

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Post ID: @5zya+1h8BNkuu

Any none salespeople want to chime in? Any fellow feds working on anything worth a darn?

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Post ID: @5kjv+1h8BNkuu

OP might be an IBM exec. It's very common execs are confused.

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Post ID: @5cpo+1h8BNkuu

Fed. Band 8.

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Post ID: @5fvt+1h8BNkuu

Ok OP. What is your role at IBM ?

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Post ID: @5orn+1h8BNkuu

That cr---y site is for selling university software, which we only support for feeding SPSS to poor stats students. (Another inexplicable purchase by IBM)

Enterprise customers don't buy their software by logging onto an e-commerce site, they send out RFPs, write contracts then get access to a slightly-less-cr---y site where they can download product images according to their current licenses. I'm not saying that system is great, but it has nothing in common with onthehub.com.

If you can't figure out the difference between how an undergrad gets SPSS and how Bank of America gets their software you might want to reconsider your choice of employer.

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Post ID: @5zte+1h8BNkuu

OP here. I absolutely work at IBM and “GTM” strategy might as well mean “synergy” when there are no products. All these posters say my post is stupid, but show us where these mysterious products are? Where is revenue actually created? Again, in the years I’ve been here, not a single screenshot of an actual product. Show me differently and I will gladly agree that OP (me) is stupid.

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Post ID: @5dbp+1h8BNkuu
Is IBM a front?

No. IBM is a rear.

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Post ID: @4lzr+1h8BNkuu

The OP does not work at IBM and has no idea in our GTM model. They went to the website and based their assumptions on digital offerings.

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Post ID: @3fmx+1h8BNkuu

Wow, what an amazing d-mb (or trolling?) post. Does OP also think the Earth is flat?

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Post ID: @3haw+1h8BNkuu

IBM is soon to be like Accenture and some of the other Indian outfits.
IBM is no longer a leader in anything, well may be in Mainframe they are, but there is
no competition there, so that is easy to be a leader.

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Post ID: @2fkx+1h8BNkuu

if i post my sn can you look me up and sell me some? god damn! i need dr-gs to work in this shithole. w t f! was i thinking!?

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Post ID: @2rlo+1h8BNkuu

i sell a ton of dr-gs and i work at ibm so maybe

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Post ID: @2lip+1h8BNkuu

IBM business model is to buy software companies with a leading product and then dramatically increase licence costs and cut support and development. Rename the product every 12 months with the latest buzz words and when it is no longer profitable sell it off to HCL or some other company.

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Post ID: @2xhb+1h8BNkuu

About the customer brains… are you saying we, the employees, are the product IBM sells? Are you saying we are the AI? That’s interesting, especially with how IBM is all in on quantum computing which used to be called cognitive computing.

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Post ID: @1rcl+1h8BNkuu

It sounds like IBM should be in the business of making customer brains. Can someone ask AK if that's "us"?

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Post ID: @1rtf+1h8BNkuu

You’d have to have sh-t for brains to buy anything that comes out of IBM, whether it’s RH or other. IBM could turn gold to sh-t.

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Post ID: @1erp+1h8BNkuu

What is this overlap between legacy products and Red Hat products that this poster keeps talking about? Was there an IBM Linux? An IBM Kubernetes? I guess Websphere/JBoss, but can't think of any others.

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Post ID: @1sgd+1h8BNkuu

IBM is streamlining the enterprise SW product offerings. The existing legacy products are being phased out for the newly acquired or customized Redhat products. You don’t spend 34 billion and then put it on the shelf. You can do the basic math. Redhats employee population was 11.5k when it was bought, and IBM will replace legacy with Redhat on a one for one basis. Most of the Redhat enterprise SW customization is now ready for roll out, and thus the layoff rumors are circulating.

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Post ID: @1akx+1h8BNkuu

If IBM has a problem it's too many products - it's just those products are all tightly targeted at enterprise niches they can exploit.

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Post ID: @1dcs+1h8BNkuu

More of a back.

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Post ID: @1nbz+1h8BNkuu

IBM is about to go kerplunk and down the drain in a swirl. All that'll be left are a bunch of little sticky notes clinging to the sides of the bowl for dear life. They'll say things like "Lorem ipsum" and "schmuck user".

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Post ID: @1yup+1h8BNkuu

What is IBM about?

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Post ID: @1nem+1h8BNkuu

You are definitely not working with signature accounts...do you even have ISC? D-mb a-s question

Non revenue generating employees always think this because they legitimately have no idea what IBM is about

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Post ID: @lpy+1h8BNkuu

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