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Another “park your Ford outdoors” recall

Not just one problem causing engine fires, and the recall “repair” doesn’t fix the engine problem. Why would anybody buy any Ford product with our abysmal quality? I would not trust our data, software and services to be of any good quality, either.

Park outdoors: Ford expands recall for possible engine fires

Detroit – Ford is expanding a recall of SUVs and telling owners to park them outside after a series of engine fires that can happen even when the ignition switches are off.

The company also announced Friday that it’s recalling another 100,000 SUVs in the U.S. for a different problem that also causes engine fires.

In May Ford recalled about 39,000 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator large SUVs in the U.S. and told owners to park them outdoors and away from buildings. On Friday the company expanded that recall to cover more than 66,000 vehicles from the 2021 model year after getting reports of five more fires.

At the time of the first recall, Ford didn’t know what was causing the fires. But on Friday the company said it has traced the cause to printed circuit boards that are susceptible to an electrical short. The company says it has reports of 21 fires and one injury, but no reports of fires extending to buildings.

The circuit boards are part of the battery junction box. Dealers will check the box for melting damage and replace it if needed. They’ll also remove or repair a cooling fan ground wire that connects to the junction box. Parts are expected to be available in early September.

The other recall covers certain 2020 through 2022 Ford Escape and Lincoln Corsair SUVs as well as some Ford Maverick small pickups. All have 2.5-liter hybrid or plug-in hybrid powertrains.

Ford says if the engine fails, significant amounts of oil and fuel vapor can leak onto hot parts, causing a fire. The company says it has 23 reports worldwide of fires while the engines are on, but no injuries.

Engines can fail due to a crankshaft machining problem. That problem has been fixed in production, but the recalled vehicles could have it.

The recall repair doesn’t address the engine failures. Ford said in a statement that engine failures are rare with 0.17 repairs per 1,000 vehicles.

Dealers will add drain holes to an under-hood shield and change the active grille shutters to allow more air flow and reduce under-hood temperatures to below the ignition points of fuel vapor or engine oil.

Owners will be notified starting Aug 8.

Owners check to see if their vehicles are affected by going to https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls and typing in their 17-digit vehicle identification number.

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“Ford dealers have sent a repair protocol to its dealers, who are “working quickly” to make parts available as soon as possible, Ford said in the release.”

I guess it is a good thing we still have a dealer network to fix our quality issues. What happens to the people of the future who can only order a vehicle online? They take their vehicle to the internet for a physical repair?

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Post ID: @1eem+1hCCt29o

That sounds pretty exciting. It's not just Ford, everything new is f**king up. Almost as if they didn't take best practices, and they attempted to reinvent the wheel all over.

If you want stuff that works, buy used. At least a few years in, you can claim it wasn't likely to burn your home to the ground. Time tends to expose most kinks and issues.

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Post ID: @1zwz+1hCCt29o

Back in May, Ford Motor Company issued a recall for select 2021 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator models after 16 under hood fires plagued a handful of vehicles. The majority of those fires occurred in rental units, with most happening while the vehicles were parked and not running. Regardless, FoMoCo wasn’t able to immediately determine what was causing these fires, which were believed to originate in the rear of the engine compartment near the passenger side of the vehicle, and as a result, asked owners to park their vehicles outside and away from structures. Now, Ford has discovered a fix for this issue.

The automaker believes that the root cause of these fires stems from a change in manufacturing location by one of its suppliers during the COVID-19 pandemic. Printed circuit boards produced at this facility are uniquely susceptible to a high-current short and were supplied to The Blue Oval and installed in 2021 Ford Expedition and Navigator SUVs produced during the recall window.

To rectify this issue, dealers will inspect affected vehicles and look for melting damage on the battery junction box and will replace it if necessary. Additionally, dealers will remove the engine fan ground wire from the battery junction box in affected vehicles equipped with an 800-watt cooling fan system, which represents about one-third of recalled models. For the remaining affected vehicles equipped with a 700-watt cooling fan system, the repair is identical, except for the installation of an auxiliary box with a wire jumper. The parts needed for this repair are expected to be available in early September, and Ford is still advising owners to park their vehicles outside and away from structures until it can be completed.

Affected customers will be notified via FordPass today, with follow-up communication coming for customers of vehicles with 700-watt systems as soon as parts are available. Meanwhile, the number of fires has grown to 21 – 18 of which are rental vehicles – while the recall has expanded to include a total of 66,221 Expedition and Navigator SUVs build in the U.S. between July 27th, 2020 and Aug. 31st, 2021.

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Post ID: @1cow+1hCCt29o

Ford Motor Company is recalling select 2020-2022 Ford Escape, Lincoln Corsair, and 2022 Ford Maverick hybrid and plug-in hybrid models over a crankshaft machining problem.

The defect: in affected vehicles, a crankshaft machining problem can cause the engine to fail.

The hazards: engine failure can cause significant amounts of oil and fuel vapor to leak onto hot parts, potentially causing a fire. So far, Ford has received 23 reports of fires related to this issue globally, but the problem has since been fixed in production.

Ford Motor Company is not aware of any accidents or injuries related to this condition.

Components: crankshaft

Affected vehicles: select 2020-2022 Ford Escape, Lincoln Corsair, and 2022 Ford Maverick hybrid and plug-in hybrid models.

The fix: dealers will add drain holes to an under-hood shield and change the active grille shutters to allow more air flow and reduce under-hood temperatures to below the ignition points of fuel vapor or engine oil.

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Post ID: @1uqx+1hCCt29o

Saw an interesting statistic about this on automotive news. Ford has had 44 recalls in 2022 which affect 6.7 million cars. And the most recalls of any brand so far for the year. I wonder how many cars are sold a month versus that number cause that is an insane statistic

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