I've seen it happen a few times. I almost feel sorry for some of them. They don't have the knowledge or experience required for their positions and you can see they're in over their heads. You might think somebody did them a favor by promoting them, but from where I'm standing and watching them drown, it seems more like the opposite.
12 replies (most recent on top)
Our supervisor has just been promoted recently to senior, despite all the HR complaints against her. The same week she had her interview more than 3 people called in regarding complaints.
That's the Honeywell Way!
The bootlicker, the brown-noser and the back-stabber are the backbone of today's aerospace and defense shitholes.
You don't get it. That is WHY they are promoted. So they will never be capable of being anything more than a Yes Person and Corporate Lackey. Those two tasks are their REAL job.
Peter principle or should call it the Peter Pan principal. Instead of flying around, they look through windows and walking around with their clipboards. They stare at people and walk around. So people will see them, and by doing so employees will work faster.
When they come around. I keep thinking about the crocodile music in Peter Pan. When you see them approaching. Think of the crocodile music from Peter Pan. They’re not qualified to run a portable outhouse.
I wonder what’s on those clipboards. When you get promoted. They must give you a clipboard. We should have a topic on what is on the management clipboard. It would be pretty damn funny.
Have seen it happen a couple of times. If you present yourself well (do the talk), and well-liked, chances are you'll get promoted. Problem is qualifications- technical and management skills. You can't bu-----t your way into a position where you are not technically qualified. A lot of finger pointing, blaming. Then there's the toxic Directors/VPs/CEOs who have no business being (promoted) in their positions.
The push for "diversity" across many companies is happening for a very specific reason but it's not for the reason they want you to believe...
You can do a lot of shady things once you have enough data to compare how individuals behave as a local group of employees. The data shows that certain factors will reliably predict wether a group of people will fail to develop genuine mutual trust and friendship between each other after spending a lot of time together. This may come as a shock to some but employers don't want their employees to truly bond in any way because that leads to undesirable outcomes from the company's perspective....
This is because employees who truly bond are more likely to exchange their concerns about issues in the workplace like bad pay, lousy benefits, bad working conditions, incompetent management, nepotism, corruption etc. People who have bonded enough will start to talk about these things and this may lead to them start rocking the boat... and they may take action collectively to push back against these issues.
With the data they found out that an increase in the "diversity of individuals" results in a group of people who are less likely to genuinely bond over time. Essentially if you do not look like me, believe what I believe, or my share my culture/religion/values then we are less likely to bond in the way that the company is worried about. This is also why they like to jam hot button political issues down everyone's throat at every place possible (like the workplace, social media, and web sites like this one). Stuff like that tends to keep people divided. Companies are not promoting these things because they genuinely care about a particular issue, rather they are doing it because keeping employees divided makes them a ton of money.
That just means you dont know what the job actually requires.
HW believes diversity of inexperience off street people will be their future shapers. WT…
It's called the Peter Principle. Do a browser search on it.
The Peter Principle is a human resource theory. The overall concept of his theory is that people within an organization are promoted until they reach a level at which they are incompetent. As a result of incompetence in their latest position, the person is not promoted further. The concept was explained in the 1969 book "The Peter Principle".
It's called "failing up". If they can't do the job, get them promoted and moved to another part of the country or another division. Watched it happen more times than I can count over 40 years.
I need to stop using voice typing. Too many errors in grammar and spelling. The sentence should have said. Who also are not qualified to do their job. Not! And hire who are not qualified.
Hey wait. I’m qualified to be a manager at Honeywell. We get memos with spelling and grammar errors all time. they don’t check their spelling and grammar errors.
Definitely qualified for a management role. I didn’t even bother go back and check if there was any spelling and grammar errors. Yes! I’m definitely qualified for a Honeywell management position.
Damn! I’m not buddies or friends with the upper management. I guess now. I’m not qualified for job.
This is how it happened. The new people brown noise the management with their B.S. Since the old management B.S. too. They match made in heaven or should we say, “He-l.” It also helps when you’re hired by your personal friends.and hired who aren’t qualified.
When the old management left by either a RIF, severance package, or just quit. These newbies got a promoted. Then chain reaction begin. Instead of hiring people who worked on the line for long time. They would skip these people and hire their friend too.
What makes you matter even worse. Then they started hiring people who had no degrees or any skills to be the management. B. S. was the qualification you needed and pushing parts.
You should see the tier 3 meetings. We’re being run by people who are 18 to 24. They get mad. I’m qualified. I deserve this job. You would do the same.
Bottom line! You get out of high school. Most people go to college. You come to Honeywell. So you don’t need all this degrees or qualifications. Learn as you go. Well, Look at the results !
So you get out of high school, what are you gonna do with your future. I don’t any degrees or have any qualifications. I’m going to Honeywell to become management. Do you wonder why Honeywell was in such a bad shape.
When your hire people at this caliber. You can keep them at the bottom of the pay scale. It also worked very hard and keep the propaganda under control. Since they really believe they deserve the job. When you’re always trying to prove that you deserve a job. You won’t ever question the upper management or pi-s off your personal buddies.