Thread regarding Ford layoffs

GSR 8 doing the work of high school or intern students

Many Ford GSR has nothing to do at work and management assigned them to do the work of a high school study or interns. These GSRs are getting paid 6 figures salary.

Wake up Ford management. I know it's not your money, but you all are wasting the company's money for years. This must stop now.

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Post ID: @OP+1hLLhqpH

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I was so busy with meetings that started at 7 am or before and too many assignments and having to explain over and over to management why they needed to be done. That is why I retired.

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@1iie+1hLLhqpH

True, my point was that that line of work is not as bad as it is made out to be. An engineering position still requires a degree with all the work and expense. If this person knows how to manage money, he could take advantage of the extra time off and enjoy the time and just relax. I imagine a crane operator, when they are working they are working 6-7 days a week and long hours, with overtime. Not glamorous, but not too horrible.

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Post ID: @1eko+1hLLhqpH

I know someone who operates a crane assembling bridges, buildings, etc. Yes, it pays well, but only when you are working! His work is sporadic, has to work out of town and live in an RV to save on hotel costs. He lives in a glorified mobile home. Not too glamorous of a life.

Ford salary is $100k+ for working perhaps 20 hours of actual work. You decide.

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Post ID: @1iie+1hLLhqpH

@1ftn+1hLLhqpH

When the plant is closed and smaller SUV's are build outside the US, "it's been outsourced".

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Post ID: @1wwm+1hLLhqpH

1asj+1hLLhqpH

"I said it sure beats digging ditches!"

Actually, a lot of those jobs pay quite well and are unionized. I heard that once the workers are certified in using the big equipment, they are set. It's not like they are standing all day with a shovel in the hot sun. Also, those jobs will not be outsourced!

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Post ID: @1ftn+1hLLhqpH

I took my son to a Take Your Kid to Work Day - on the way home he said is that all you do for work??

I said it sure beats digging ditches!

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Post ID: @1asj+1hLLhqpH

I retired last year after 33 years and never moved above GSR 7. I always had a secondary source of income and my wife worked a full time job and had a side business. In my area of work, relocation was required if you wanted to continue to be promoted. I saw some very unqualified people be promoted based only on their willingness to relocate. It never made financial sense to me to relocate. In my opinion, 95% of the important work was done by GSRs. Most LL6-LL4 were fairly clueless and should never have been put in such positions in the first place. They never seemed to do any productive work. In the last couple years of my career, the woke mentality was ridiculous and participating in some of those meetings was frankly embarrassing. Thankfully I retired at the right time, took the lump sum and never looked back,

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@umv+1hLLhqpH

Hardly can't argue with what you're saying in the least. There is a probably a direct correlation between 5 year+ seniority and the more d-mbing down of the job. They have to maintain their stellar reputation and ranking with the Glassdoors of the world at the expense of those over 40.

That said, this presents yet another conundrum for Ford with the upcoming cuts. They'll most assuredly go after the positions that add little to no value and the ones a high school student could do. And they might be right, only it's not the low performers they necessarily have in those jobs but more so those over 40. It's just too inviting for Ford to resist, and I haven't mentioned the much higher total compensation costs of those over 40. So they'll go through a big round of layoffs and watch as numerous people reach out to the best law firms- not tough to predict.

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Post ID: @gwm+1hLLhqpH

This is a polarizing topic as there are 2 good points. I went to a basic engineering college and did good, hard work for 30+ years at Ford as it was usually clear what needed to be done if you have common sense and decent leadership. Just pick up your tools and work hard. There was nothing d-mb about the work.
However noticed many peers from higher pedigree schools with masters degrees go completely unutilized. Almost like they were given made up jobs, to check a box, deliver nothing, and move to the next promotion. You could see this across many organizations over many years . Ford went after top talent schools and totally squandered that resource with ineffective leadership at every level and some bozo CEOs. So I laugh out loud that Ford supposedly doesn't have the "right talent" because everything rises and falls on leadership. NOT just a cliché or business book quote.

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Post ID: @umv+1hLLhqpH

Farley made $30 million last year. If you really want to cut dead weight you'd start with him!

#FireFarley

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Post ID: @vwn+1hLLhqpH

@OP

You better don't go look what D-Ford does all day.

But you are correct, there are GSR positions that have been d-mbed down so hard it is completely worthless. Not only that but it will also ruin their resumes for good.

The Smart Redesign is to blame for the examples I know of. They took responsibilities away from people and spread it across multiple teams. So everyone now does very little. Then there are jobs that exist solely for company liability purposes. For examples why does task x,y,z even require an engineering degree? Not because of its complexity. Simply because of liability.

On top of that, management does not think very highly of its own people. You can tell when they only lower the bar but never raise it. They think you can only raise the bar when you put outside people in those jobs.

I would also like to add that many companies are crying out for not being able to find the right talent. But when you see how much waste there is I am not wondering there aren't enough people left to fill these often extreme-specialty positions.

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Post ID: @flu+1hLLhqpH

@lul described birth and functioning of GDIA to a T

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Post ID: @uhd+1hLLhqpH

Yeah what @OP describes happens in some groups. It happens because of the way ford ‘assembly lines’ jobs. So instead of having one team do job X they split it into 5 or more jobs with 5 LL6 and a LL5 and ramp up a staff to 5-10 times the number of people needed. So you have all these made-up do-nothing jobs to support the LL5s empire,
If they would just have one team to do job X the team would know the job soup to nuts and would automate the boring and repetitive bits.

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Post ID: @lul+1hLLhqpH

When Ford recruited me. I had ten years of manufacturing experience and a Bachelors degree. My experience was needed to do the job. You’re just talking off the top of your head. Stirring up trouble and attempting to hurt morale. A bit shallow you be…..

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Post ID: @ast+1hLLhqpH

I'm a recently retired GSR 8. It was just the opposite. We did all the work (at least in my department).

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Post ID: @ovb+1hLLhqpH

The high school students, interns, or FCGs don't want to do those boring tasks. Have to convince them they are the future.

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Post ID: @aqi+1hLLhqpH

It is an even more severe issue that management does not know how to fully and effectively utilize their resources.

This must stop now.

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