Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

If you got an offer that pays a little less but the company has better job security, would you accept it?

I'm currently torn. I hate the fact that no matter how hard I work and how good I am at my job I can be put on PIP because my manager is given a directive to "find" the low performers whether there are any or not. However, I do enjoy my job and I'm paid well. I've been here for nearly five years and thanks to great coworkers, I have few other complaints. I wouldn't even consider leaving, but not being able to affect something like PIP is driving me crazy.

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Post ID: @OP+1hMYtLrK

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Leave.

Do it. Company has changed a lot. One less than stellar year at kissing up to the right DH or other higher up manager or telling one of their protected snowflake chosen ones that they are not doing something right or within company policy (like breaking controls policy) and they will let you know with a swift kick down to NI or NSI.

Work at a better place for your own long-term mental health.

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Post ID: @3ben+1hMYtLrK

High probability that your supervisor and their supervisor don't stay in their positions more than a couple of years. Very likely that 1 out of those won't like you for no valid reason and your decline in assessment will start.

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Post ID: @2ain+1hMYtLrK

Well worth it. The LEVEL of appreciation and trust from me employer, with an upbeat environment is good!!

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Post ID: @1nmx+1hMYtLrK

You start losing value in your professional or technical expertise after more than 5 years at EM. You know what to do.

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Post ID: @1kkn+1hMYtLrK

A bunch of people posting here seem to forget that while no job is truly secure, BETTER job security than EM is easy to achieve. Few companies buy the snake oil sold by consultants the way the inept EM management has bought it in the last two years. The combination of forced ranking, ranking based on impact (ranking the role, not the work!), a system of sponsored parasites chosen at the whim of older managers, protected from any real work but with guaranteed high ranking, all that plus the yearly oversized, mandatory PIP - that’s a deadly combination you will just never find in another company!

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Post ID: @zuq+1hMYtLrK

@OP Anyone who claims to be offering you job security is probably lying to you.

If it isn’t in your offer letter, you’re not getting it. If it’s job security you want, negotiate a defined duration of employment with your prospective employer, draw up a contract, and hire a licensed attorney to see you through the process and advocate for your interests. This is exactly what executives do while negotiating their compensation packages. It’s also why you see them being given huge, sluttish severance packages after running companies into the ground.

If you lack the resources to do any of this, or if the compensation doesn’t make it worthwhile, my suggestion is that you take the highest dollar amount, because nobody will offer you job security of any kind unless they’re contractually obligated to do so.

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Post ID: @yxd+1hMYtLrK

I was in a similar position and ended up taking a 10% cut at my new job. ABSOLUTELY WORTH IT.

Regarding "Job security" it really depends on the culture. I feel infinitely more secure at my new job vs XOM. While it's definitely possible to still get fired/laid off, I don't think my company will blindside me.

Not having a forced ranking system is what provides that security. It's 100% up to me to achieve my goals for the year, and that's completely independent of what the guy next door is working on.

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Post ID: @saf+1hMYtLrK

Take it and run. Don't look back, ever . The Company thinks you svck and will come for you., most likely when you are doing g well and they can add insults to injury.

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Post ID: @lui+1hMYtLrK

NEVER stop looking for the next job

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Post ID: @scb+1hMYtLrK

Newsflash. Job security isn't a thing anywhere.

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Post ID: @bhu+1hMYtLrK

Stay until PIPPED, because it may never happen.

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Post ID: @cpb+1hMYtLrK

EM has no commitment to any Western employees unless you're supervision or above.

Choose wisely.

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Post ID: @oth+1hMYtLrK

There is no such thing as “job security” anymore. Not in ExxonMobil, and not in any other company. Don’t kid yourself and don’t let your next potential employer lie to you.

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Post ID: @jea+1hMYtLrK

If you are young, look at it from a long term career perspective. Get the skills you need but don’t hang around. Don’t do it for money alone. Ever.

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Post ID: @ahm+1hMYtLrK

Yes, get out

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