Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Collab Sinking

  1. Horrible acquisition & investment strategy.
  2. Attrition through the roof, people leaving daily
  3. Marketing is bad, bad, bad
  4. Focus on useless high end features
  5. Poor leadership that nobody trusts
  6. Teams, Zoom et. al. eating our lunch and we had a 10+ year head start
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@bwsn+1hgDNBO3 look. I love to sh-t on Cisco collab too. But we have to at least be honest about it and give credit where credit is due. They have over 50% market share for cloud calling. 8x8 and vonage are tiny.

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Post ID: @caxp+1hgDNBO3

Is Cisco even in the top 10 of cloud telephony companies? Ringcentral, 8x8, Vonage have to be close to the top. Chambers rule: if you aren't #1 or #2 in the market, time to exit.

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Post ID: @bwsn+1hgDNBO3

What are you sinking about?

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Post ID: @bceh+1hgDNBO3

WebEx stagnated from 2016-2020, probably because the CFO starved it of OPEX. Too late to save it now, although it’s probably number 2 behind Zoom. But Teams will ki-l it as well, because, well, Office 365.

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Post ID: @8ioz+1hgDNBO3

How are we supposed to compete with a free product using a mediocre product? How is this not obvious?

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Post ID: @3qio+1hgDNBO3

zoom would not be a success today if Webex leadership actually give a fk.

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Post ID: @2kpm+1hgDNBO3

From a UX perspective Wx is streets ahead of either MSFT Teams or the Google effort. I would say it lags behind Zoom though.

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Post ID: @2aza+1hgDNBO3

Objectively, Webex is not awful. It’s pretty good. Unfortunately, good Webex features showed up late at the party. The damage is done, we let Zoom happen. Just like we let Palo Alto happen. And just like we let Arista happen. Same story every single time.

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Post ID: @2ztm+1hgDNBO3

WebEx is awful. Used Teams and Zoom at my last company and they are both miles ahead of WebEx. If there are layoffs this year I’d expect to see some in collab.

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Post ID: @2qsz+1hgDNBO3

I gotta get the fu-k off this sinking ship and into modern pastures. This place would be A+ amazing if I had like 5-10 years of career left and was trying to hide and skate, but I have a long time to go!!

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Post ID: @1kjp+1hgDNBO3

I thought they were going to sell it a year or two ago, instead they doubled down with investment but the strategy was poor. Not sure where they go now... Cisco has lost collaboration...

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Post ID: @pow+1hgDNBO3
  1. Teams, Zoom et. al. ate our lunch and we had a 10+ year head start
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Post ID: @ksp+1hgDNBO3

I'm really surprised it hasn't been sold off yet - before value goes to zero. Perhaps attempts were made but no buyers. Was at one time the market leader in IP telephony and web conferencing.

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