Has Chevron lost respect for our personal and family time. Please stop scheduling meeting at 6 and 7pm. I have 3 kids under ten, and 3/4 days a week I get requests for meetings during dinner and bed time. JUST STOP assuming I work 24 hours a day. I already work 50 hour a week because my team is short staffed.
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Easy answer: Don’t work for a global company. No one is forcing you to,
Can’t have a global meeting without inconveniencing somebody.
@2pif I’ll go out on a limb and assume that you’re either single or divorced.
@OP Just log in and leave the camera off. Works for me.
I have had the Rig Is On Fire call. It was late but I responded. They got the fire out,
As a employee working a global job traveling 3 plus months a year, it never impacted my marriage of 38 years. I did however wait until my kids were grown before starting such an intense travel position.
There are two situations I'll bend the rules and take a meeting at some ridiculous hour:
- Overseas team with an issue at hand that I can directly help them with. I'll work on their time as long as it's not an every day thing.
- Rig is on fire.
That's it.
But we never did business with Shell in Moscow...
It typically depends on your management--- most respect reasonable hours (though you get the occasional bad boss who wants you available 24/7).
I remember a conference call with Shell from Moscow (I was home in California). Call began at 2am (California). Shell asked if it was OK for the meeting to take a 15 minute break at 3am (my time) and could I stay on the line. Like I was going someplace at 3am :) Even the coffee shops don't open until 5am.
Occasional (silly) uncomfortable hours are necessary for a global business
Sounds like a Fake News Post from a real Slacker.
Get a plush overseas position and pick up a more compliant spouse in the deal. Asia and Latin America work well.
Hello no!!! I just ignore those meeting request and pretend i never saw them. 8-4 otherwise leave me the he-l alone especially on Fridays.
If you are blaming your job for your divorce I think you should maybe look a little harder at the root cause. Most likely it's something else and you just need something to blame it on. Just sayin'
I am young and single. Still don't appreciate meeting invites in my evenings, my early mornings and on my freaking Fridays off. I already worked those hours and then some, leave me alone!
I'm fine with occasional offschedule hours for meetings with overseas groups, but when we're all in the same time zone? What's the point of demending that we all be on the same schedule if people are gonna pull this BS? And what's the point of my working 9/80 if I'm not going to get to enjoy my 10th day?
Everyone is young and single, loves sharing an apartment with 3 strangers, and lives to work. Didn’t you know that? There’s no time for a spouse or kids. So selfish. Think of the company.
Decline after hours meetings and shut off alerts on your smartphone. This is the only way to keep boundaries.
If you are working nights and weekends to get everything done then that's a sign that the workload is too much.
Unfortunately a lot of people have been brain washed by the wealthy and their political party that its patriotic and heroic to work as many extra hours as possible and give up your family life in the mean time. Thats true freedom! Yes you should work hard and give your company good work but not at the expense of your family life.
I have this exact same problem. On Mondays when I am in the office, I get 3 requests for meetings while I drive home at 530 for 630,7 or 8pm meetings. Hybrid schedules are a great benefit, but please remember that I do not work 24 hours a day. It is better for me to take meetings at 2am than 7pm.
Sir, at Wendy’s we offer divorces at the drive-thru window
If you are in IT and if the team is geo distributed someone will have to work late or early.
It's just math.
I just decline the after hours meetings.
For PMP I don't really think much of anything but politics helps in that let a lot putting in extra work.
In CTC (ETC) I have consulting work in just about every time zone. For many years I traveled extensively, but in later years I switched more to remote meeting (thanks to technology improvements) and then with the pandemic all meetings became remote. If you find an hour meeting late at night too disruptive, don’t even think about a position that requires lots of travel across time zones. That said, to each his (her) own and I am sure there are lots of positions within Chevron that allow bankers hours only.
Not sure what group you are in, but in my 30 years, never a meeting at those hours. Unless you are doing international time zone work from another locale...
If you work with BUs spread across the globe it is hard to avoid “after hours” meetings. That said, I am sure there are lots of positions you can find within Chevron where your reach is only local. Seek and you will find.
Discretionary effort is one of the biggest differentiators at PMP time. Benchmark performers have minimal career performance but typically complain the most.
@qiu Don't pay any attention to the red necks that praise the "freedom" to dedicate your life to a company that will throw you out as fast as they can to save a penny for dividends. I just can't understand these people who willing sacrifice time doing the things that truly matter to work extra.
@fyn+1hhrWbHy Why? Because I set boundaries and want to have a life outside of work? If that's what constitutes below average in your mind, then label away. Pretty sad on your part though.
You sound like a below average employee to me.
Anything scheduled before 8 or after 5 in my time zone I view optional and 99% of the time I don't bother to attend. Sc--w their lip service, take back the time that is yours.
I have had meetings as early as 4am and as late as midnight. All part of the job.
Why so many meetings in the first place? Not sure if actual work gets done.
CVX has always given lip service to "family, life work balance". It's the same lip service regarding the importance of the employees.
Maybe people (and perhaps you included) are blocking their calendars during the day for fake meetings to do non-work stuff while WFH like taking kids to/from school and extracurricular activities, going to the gym, hiking, doing laundry, prepping meals, running errands, etc. (you know…all the life balance stuff) so only time to really meet is early evening.