Thread regarding Ford layoffs

I'll take the 1990s business model instead of the current one. We made money on the core car part of the business, new product launches went smoothly, the stock was in the 40s and Jaq Nasser had us moving in mostly the right direction.

@2Tkv
Please put some actual names to these fantasies./ What companies are making money on data? What data is being sold? Exactly how much profit is made annually on a data sale? What are the last 5years profits? Exactly who would want any data from Ford and why?
Please stop with the Leaders, the Leaders. Sounds like the plane! the plane! Yes they are the leaders doing their thing, but so what. CEOs are a dime a dozen and never have to sell snake oil (data). Great ones much less so.

@2tkv+1hxZ5Eq0
Let’s extend your logic - how could anyone think there is not money in manufacturing reliable affordable vehicles? (Sedans, minivans, light trucks). After all some auto companies profitably do that? Why is Ford unable to do so?

The problem that plagues Ford is the messy middle that continues to focus on building their own careers and fiefdoms instead of focusing on the business. LL3s/LL4s/LL5s choosing to release highest paid, best performers instead of releasing all the coasters and non-value add employees. Why? Their fiefdom needs ever expanding # of people to facilitate their promotions. In Ford land you look better managing 1000 incompetents than 50 high performers.

Selling data, you have to have high quality data to have a buyer. Talk to people who have been around for the initial data lake fill to present and educate yourself. The original head of GDIA was also an external hire. That did not prevent the Ford-ification of processes and the inevitable results. (The ever present messy middle). Do you warrantee data that you sell?

Software quality speaks for itself. Again the messy middle muddles the work.

Data Centers look at the cost and mess that was made with the Data Center of the future. Again the messy middle.

When the opportunity presents itself have a chat with one or more of the leaders Ford brought in who have subsequently left Ford. The two that I have spoken with each said they were blown away by how insidious and destructive the Ford culture was. The middle managers torpedoed their efforts behind the scenes while pretending to be following directives.

@2tkv+1hxZ5Eq0.

What data you WILL have that Tesla/FB/Google do not have today?
What software you WILL develop that Tesla does not have today?
What data analytic methods that you know that FB or Google does not know?

Telling people that there are 35B left on the table is as "meaningless" as telling people Sun will rises from the west in 2030. By 2030, all of these outsiders will be truly outside.

We know OP is not a Ford employee because this was posted on a holiday weekend, and Ford employees do not do anything related to the to Ford on weekends or holidays.

I do not understand how anyone can think data, data centres, software and subscriptions like Ford Pro are "meaningless". Just look at how many digital companies have made billions off of just data.

Our leadership including Doug Field and others know this is an untapped market for a transforming mobility company such as Ford. And that's why many in Ford leadership today have come from these outside companies.

50% three white, male, LL6's who can't figure out why their careers stalled, know they are too overpaid and under skilled to find work elsewhere, and are praying to God they don't get let go because a divorce has cut their pension in half.

25% former employees who got let go or felt pressured to retire.

15% current Ford employees

10% clowns who never worked for Ford and have nothing better to do.

@ust Glad you and your peers skills are put to good use here complaining then with 20 years experience, hope you put equal effort into solving problems vs not solving.

"And now it is becoming a company about digital systems and data."

Let that sink in. Those are meaningless words with a valueless return on investment. Do you truly believe Ford is going into the air-selling business? Was tried already with Hackett.

With one exception, this is the Ford post-1990 business model.

https://mobile.twitter.com/georgetakei/status/1204879135937572864

They're not stuck in "an old business model".

Their jobs used to be in a company that makes cars. And now it is becoming a company about digital systems and data. And the majority of people currently at Ford don't have these qualifications. The majority of engineers in the US neither. They will be out of work. And they question if this is the right way to begin with.

80% Ford employees/contractors
10% prior Ford employees occasionally dropping by out of curiosity
5% press
5% other

Then offer a voluntary and we will leave.

I work at Ford in model e and it is clear to me the majority of the forum participants are people who do not like Doug Field, Bill Ford, Jim Farley and their vision. I think people here do work at Ford but they are not seeing the big picture where Ford is going with the total company transformation.

They are all stuck in the 1990's business model.

95% Ford IT
3% Ford PD
2% Old People here for the entertainment

Nothing here influences any stocks. Are you serious? This is an entertainment site. I'm guessing that a full 50% of people posting in any given company's thread have never received a check from that company. Lots and lots of trolls here. And that's OK. Makes it worth sticking around. Our ad views help too. :)

Nice attempt at trying to undercut the validity of postings seen here, are you HR?

I'd say it's more like:
10-15% of former Ford people (including retirees, SRD, recent lay-offs, etc)
5-10% anti-Ford and speculators trying to influence share prices
75-85% still here and concerned about all the BS going on.

Yep -some and probably same company shrill. Been here too long to know that one of these scenarios will most likely play out lest you forget Ford just had a double secret layoff in April to avoid the WARN Act coupled with trying to keep it out of the media.

The SRD people identify themselves and by all indications post factual accounts of their experiences. Good try, though.

20+ years at Ford, currently employed and know quite a few of my peers that frequent here so OP, you are an a$$hat.