Check out the announcements page. Most expat opportunities are no longer being offered to the US workforce. In fact the US is receiving a lot of expats from a certain country. Pretty interesting to see people training their replacements.
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Exxon leadership team is ruining the company. Their kids will go to cheap BTC for work one day. They will also learn how to copy and provide low quality deliverables.
Just search on LinkedIn under ExxonMobil Bengaluru and sort on people and review their titles and background experiences.
The ExxonMobil Bengaluru Technology Center is hiring exponentially with all engineering disciplines in Upstream and Downstream. This explains why people are quitting in Beaumont, Baytown, and all other EMRE locations in the United States.
EM staffing expat jobs with low cost BTC for profit.
EM charges partners a very high rate per month for an expat. If expat costs 1/3 the historical rate, EM makes a profit.
I doubt EM will just charge partners 1/3 if staff position from BTC.
When it comes to giving BTC people expat assignments to gain real world experience it is actually quite lucrative. The allowances given to them are double those of US expats. Not only are they given excellent opportunity, they are laughing on the way to the bank. Don't believe me? Do your own research. It's true.
@1fxs, there is nothing racist about paying differently for doing the same job. It depends on your ‘home country’ and the cost structure associated with it.
@1ezq For the umpteenth time:
Jobs were being offshored to India and other countries before Covid and before WFH became a mainstream thing.
This is not new. It’s been happening since the 1980s. If you have an ax to grind about WFH there’s better ways to do that.
If we can Work From Home...Then it is possible to Work from India. The work from home push has proven we should offshore more jobs to India. Pretty all of the Tech sector will offshore more jobs to India, then when the oil industry gets around to moving jobs and laying off US workers there will be no jobs to go to in the tech sector.
Work from Home proves the argument that most jobs should move to India or BA.
Assume there are 20 expat positions in PNG with 10 Indians and 10 Americans filling those positions.
Systematically every Indian is paid 1/3 the amount that the Americans are paid, performing same jobs in same location.
Could that salary gap be interpreted as racism?
What’s even more ironic are Indians who received citizenships in other countries and are now back at BTC as expats.
Yes the company is taking advantage of the low compensation and placing BTC resources as expats, and not one person will turn it down.
I’d eventually expect the company will take down the announcement board to further hide what’s going on.
Let’s not kid ourselves. The reasons jobs are going to Indians is because the cost-value proposition is compelling. It’s the same reason people in the U.S. choose to shop at Walmart instead of Target.
And if the quality of work coming out from BTC is not up to the mark, a large part of the responsibility lies with folks in Houston, since they have not provided the right level of support and mentorship.
@xrq The primary reason jobs are outsourced to India and/or offered to Indians is because Indians speak English and are willing to work for much less pay.
More often than not, Indians are sufficiently well-qualified (on paper) to allow the companies who employ them to achieve their financial and legal goals.
As far as their actual performance goes, I would rate it on a spectrum from mediocre to abysmal, with a small number of brilliant exceptions. Companies often end up hiring US-based consultants to fix their mistakes.
You can't tell me EM has a rac!st history with as straight face, can you?
Lookah what we've done in Iraq, Malaysya, N!gerya, Chadz, and now Guyanna?
Advanced them all to the 21st century, if you look with open eyes.
Baton Rouge - cleanest place ever made by EM.
A plastic model.
And the same with employment around the globe.
Raised up Budapest to the heights, and leaving them there.
Traiing out SG, BKK, KL - 3 bucks an hour they expect now.
But not from EM.
Chumps don't change.
Rockefeller in Texa$$.
Same as it ever was.
@xrq+1i5Kt6ey That is total nonsense I'm afraid. You could alternatively say that everyone should go on local terms... How many Americans will take a pay cut to go to PNG? Or even Europe?
Sorry, but your argument sounds like something our management would come up with 😁😁😁
EM is now applying a blatantly racist pay gap to expatriate positions. An EM Indian employee sent on expatriate assignment to PNG is paid a fraction of that amount paid an American expatriate. Both same CL, same years experience, performing same job, at same location, two very different salaries due to built in discrimination related to national origin.
BTC employees could start a class action lawsuit against EM for discrimination and systematic racist salary treatment.
In my group in Europe, we've already got more contractors than employees. Amazing what's possible when you encourage employees to leave and d-mb down the work so much.
It has been happening for years. Every job is outsourced or contracted out. I am waiting for my day to come. How else is excon going to get the cost per barrel down. We have and equal if not more number of contractors in my group to regular employees. Soon it will be one employees to 5 contractors. I have seen it at other places one employee supervising several contractors. It is the future and it is coming fast.
@OP US companies have been offshoring jobs since the Reagan years. That was the last time there was anything resembling a functioning social contract between employers and employees.
Truth be told, there isn’t much to the O&G white-collar workforce when it comes to knowledge and skills. The newest systems out there (including most software) are easily over 10 years old, and managers/contributors in all departments do little aside from initial POs, send emails, and sit in Zoom/Teams meetings. Sure, send that to India to have it done for half the cost. Outsource the C-suite while you’re at it.
Really odd, as we're seeing a ton load of US expats coming into Europe, especially UK. It's almost like it's back to the good old days with the select few back to milking the assignment gravy train.
It is a lot of the youngest Americans though, so they are cheaper to move around, but probably most importantly are easy to ship back quickly if the lights are turned off quickly in Europe.
@jdm+1i5Kt6ey Here we go again with the blame game. "Young" professionals insisted on WFH is somehow connected to a company offshoring project that began years before COVID and was being planned probably 10 years before that knowing how slow XOM does anything. You really think that somehow being in the office 24/7 would've prevented anyone with a brain from seeing that BTC and KLTC employees represent a third of the cost of a US/EU employee? Here's another fact, TMTS is mostly affecting the manufacturing sites. Long positioned as being safer from layoffs since you're "closer to a valve" or whatever BS they tell young people now so they sacrifice their best years in a control room dealing with old equipment and Bubba operators. And guess what? Manufacturing sites in the US and EU where back in the plant like a month into COVID. So take your hur dur the "Younguns" ruined everything clown take to whatever drivel you read. The blame is squarely on corporate leadership who will continue to outsource every single thing they can until employees make it stop either through mass action or state/federal policy. But that won't happen. So folks like yourself will blame everything but the people literally making the decision and forcing employees to train their replacements in low cost countries.
Yes, there is offshoring desk oriented roles. I do find it amusing how many young US and EU professionals advocate for 100% WFH, but don’t realize what that means…do you as an individual really bring something to the table that someone else in the world does not?
But here’s another way to look at some of what you are likely seeing: operating facilities in low cost regions with high cost expats is a stupid business model in any industry…
That’s exactly right , now the cost savings model is moving to expat placement as well.
Ask around on how the company treats BTC expats compensation wise, you won’t be surprised.
Yes, OP. Training our replacements is the name of the game. I am RE and have received two expat assignments primarily based on that very fact. If I don't play along they'll PIP my azz out, so I do. I'll play along and brownnose while I'm at it to open the door for a lucrative Contractor gig to do exactly the same. Good luck to you and yours