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Does an Internal Move Make Any Difference?

One and a half year has passed since I joined Cisco in APJC. I left Cisco about 21 years ago and came back. But I soon realized that I'd made a big mistake. It turned out that the company had become totally a different company. I've been feeling so shocked, disappointed, discouraged, upset, and disgruntled, frustrated every single day although I've been working from home still due to the pandemic.

My manager is younger than I by over 10 years. He's been at Cisco for 22 years. (I can't believe anyone would stay at the same company for such a long long time! Doesn't he have any motivation or any plan for life?) He doesn't have any work experience outside Cisco, but due to his long tenure, he bosses over me. (This is the first time for me to have a non-English speaking manager, which is also so stressing for me.)

I just cannot believe that the company has become like this, full of young, immature, childish, professionally inexperienced and unskilled employees without any prior work experience outside Cisco. Is this company what I used to love? I often wonder why and when the company has become like this, filled with quiet, characterless, low-key, nonchalant, sneaky staff in 20's, 30's and 40's, always trying to hide themselves in order to survive at this company, who don't speak or who don't even show their faces in any meeting.

And all of those works, tasks, activities, and projects are handled by those who have been at Cisco for over 15 years or more, and they are the ones who always get Recognition Awards by their colleagues or the company. They never let anyone from outside Cisco (e.g., anyone from MS, VZ, JNPR, CTXS, AMZN, SF, VM, etc.) do anything, then I often wonder why the company has hired people with solid career and expertise who previously worked at other US tech companies. They just never let them (and me) lead any work, any project. They just ignore them (and me). Obviously those people and me have better and more solid professional experiences than people who've been only at Cisco for 20 years.

Just so much. It's time. I just need to get out. It's not just boring every day, but I'm also wasting my time without being able to gain any new skill or experience as long as I'm here.

And I have a question. Every month, we received an email with a list of Open Positions from Talent Acquisition team. I check if any of those positions would match me at all, but it's few and far between. I also get skeptical if any of those positions would still make me feel upset and disgruntled as long as I stay at this company even if I could move to another position.

Has anyone moved to another position at this company? Are you feeling better now? Are you feeling the same? Or perhaps, are you feeling even worse with a new position because you're still at Cisco?

Does an internal move within Cisco make any difference after all?

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"I know who they are."

No you don't, numbnuts.

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Post ID: @3xhd+1i7ju6Os

I noticed there are some people who always oppose what he/she wrote about in the post. I don't understand why they come back here time and time again and check posts and threads.

seek assistance?

What the f--- is he talking about? There is no such an assistance at the company or outside the company. That's why people post their questions or opinions here, don't they?

I hate those people who come to this post and lecture to protect the company from ivory tower. I know who they are.

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Post ID: @3rsw+1i7ju6Os

"Please tell me you’re a troll. If you aren’t and fail to see the many ironies in your post, seek assistance. You come back after 21 years as a simple employee. Not a manager, not a director, not a VP. So whatever you’ve done outside Cisco hasn’t really helped your career now has it? You complain about your manager being younger than you (why is that a problem ?) and rile about the fact he’s stayed at Cisco for over 20 years (again why is that a problem ?)."

This guy is a Cisco lover and obviously has been at Cisco for long. What are you checking in here for? This is not where you lecture anyone. Be gone.

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Post ID: @1hiq+1i7ju6Os

"Please tell me you’re a troll. If you aren’t and fail to see the many ironies in your post, seek assistance. You come back after 21 years as a simple employee. Not a manager, not a director, not a VP. So whatever you’ve done outside Cisco hasn’t really helped your career now has it? You complain about your manager being younger than you (why is that a problem ?) and rile about the fact he’s stayed at Cisco for over 20 years (again why is that a problem ?)."

This guy is a Cisco lover and obviously has been at Cisco for long. What are you checking in here for? This is not where you lecture anyone. Be gone.

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Post ID: @1kjm+1i7ju6Os

Please tell me you’re a troll. If you aren’t and fail to see the many ironies in your post, seek assistance. You come back after 21 years as a simple employee. Not a manager, not a director, not a VP. So whatever you’ve done outside Cisco hasn’t really helped your career now has it? You complain about your manager being younger than you (why is that a problem ?) and rile about the fact he’s stayed at Cisco for over 20 years (again why is that a problem ?).

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Post ID: @1kow+1i7ju6Os

It depends on which group you move to: you interview the hiring group to find the right manager/ group for you. But you may get reorganized later, then get bad matched manager again.

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Post ID: @roe+1i7ju6Os

I've moved around internally at Cisco. All the orgs are dysfunctional... it's the corporate culture, and not isolated to specific orgs

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Post ID: @ffv+1i7ju6Os

Maybe it's time to go back into the office and engage on a more physical, human level.

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Post ID: @hpy+1i7ju6Os

From my math, sounds like you were gone from Cisco for 19 years?

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