I know this RTO thing comes up often but does anyone have any updates on RTO, such as getting in trouble for not going in 3x a week? School season has started and things are different now since the pandemic started. I know it's not Wells problem but I can't balance life and work. I still need to work to support my family, but also can't support my kids with their school and activities. My seniors were flexible but rto changed all that. Dropping off and picking up my children don't affect my work performance, so I don't know what gives. Guess sort of asking around and venting
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I just saw the email about health lolllll I hate it here. Buncha zombies.
No question that mgmt can extract data on how frequently employees are in the office. Even if they haven’t done any thing adverse to date, the data can be used as part of the analysis for layoffs should they choose to do so.
Generally, I try to do what my employer says they want. Helps me sleep at night. YMMV.
No, I wfh prior to covid for years and years. So my work/life is not overbalanced at all. Actually during covid, I worked hard and got promoted. So clearly wfh was doable and didn't affect my work performance
People can have children and extracurricular activities, and still be effective in their jobs. There were people who were WFH prior to Covid, and then people who realized how much better life could be once they started working from home. Work can take place prior to children waking up, and after dropping them off at school or child care. Commuting adds time. For some people, a commute might just be a few minutes. Other people now have commutes of an hour or more. That hour+ takes away from family time. For some people, the commute is made even more pointless because they are going to offices where they don't interact with other people.
During Covid, parents in particular, had the added challenge of making sure school work was getting done, in addition to work tasks. They were expected to do what needed to be done. In many groups, performance levels increased. People wanted to show they could work from home, and do it well. This increase in performance was rewarded by telecommuting agreements being voided, 401k matches being moved to once a year, and all of the other stuff they have done. To make it worse, we keep getting emails about how much they care about our health, and the environment, and other things that are clearly untrue.
Not to be harsh but you worked 5 days in office prior to covid with kids correct? . It appears your life has overbalanced your work/life ratio. This is the big issue from employers with employees working at home. Personal takes away from work time.
Yes managers monitor & get reports. It depends on the area how they are enforcing it (if at all). As far as returning to work, the last Ops group- ICC (call center) -returned to office starting this week. Prevailing rumor is we will be back to full 5 days in office, not if but when. I very much hope this is wrong but reality is Goldman Sachs, JPM, govt workers have already started this. Covid is now part of our daily lives no different than the flu. No need for hybrid.
I have been laid off but I understand from former peers that the managers get reports that show the VPN your computer connected to in order to verify RTO and that they also get badge swipe reports. No word if the managers are being coached to look for a minimum time a direct stays at the office, but some lines of business are coaching their teams for not going to their office at least three days a week. I recently read an article that stated that WF owns more real estate than any other bank in the US. I’m sure they want to get their money out of all the office space owned by the company.
Leaders aren't ’disconnected’ they know EXACTLY what’s going on and the bs they are spewing but they are all hired based on one common denominator- to do as you’re told and enforce the company’s rules and hand over your spine. Once moved into ‘leadership’ at Wells Fargo, you are given your scripts for your employees and a number to your HR professional to discuss any details.
Do what you need to do. As long as you have a valid reason and you’re job is getting done you have my permission. If you start slacking, which is doubtful because it seems like you learned how to manage both work and personal life, then we can have a discussion about ‘getting in trouble.’
God bless.
- charlie
Seems to be a "don't ask, don't tell" mentality around RTO in my group.
The ground level managers know that more work is getting done from home offices than would be done from formal offices. And they also know that less work will get done if long, expensive commutes are dictated.
The problem is the "leaders" who are so disconnected from the actual business that their decisions are nonsensical in the extreme.
My understanding is that currently, only whether you made it in to the office is being tracked, not how long. You said picking up/dropping off your kids doesn’t impact your work performance, would it be possible to drop off/pick up on the way too/from the office? As long as you’re getting all your work done, attending all your meetings, and logged in for whatever required hours your group/role have, I think you could probably get away with arriving late/leaving the office early to get your kids too/from school, as long as you’re in the office for part of the day.
How does that work? I've seen some comments in prior posts but didn't believe it. Does it really work? Also, do you know if they're being notified on a monthly basis and if it's on individual team members?
My direct supervisor asked me if I lived 40 miles away from the nearest WF office.
Workaround: Use one of those strip mall mailbox stores that’s more than 40 miles away from any WF office for your Home address. RTO issue problem solved.
By the way, managers are being notified if team members are not going to their office. Someone is running a query.
Another workaround: You got long Covid.
The latest: FRTO.