Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Unfairly placed on PIP

I consider myself rather self-critical but I truly believe that I was put on PIP totally unfairly. Much worse performers were spared from this. I wonder what this is all about.

  1. How many more of you are there who have been unfairly placed on PIP?
  2. Is it even worth trying to reach the impossible goals imposed by the PIP?
by
| 2497 views | | 13 replies (last ) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1iGg7lzQ

13 replies (most recent on top)

How old are you? I was over 50, but the highest performer on my team. The day after I closed a very large deal, I was placed on an impossible PIP with a 48 day deadline. My quota increase for the half was over 600% YOY, so it was a given that success would be challenging. I hit over 300% of plan in the 1st half. Net… it was not really performance, it was age. They had already hired the intern they planned to replace me with. If this sounds like you, then your first step is to contact an attorney in your state before you leave. They can not stop the firing, but they will guide you on what you should do immediately to best prepare a case. Query ibm age discrimination lawsuit and your state location on the net and you will find which firm is handling the class action. They will advise you. Leave paper trails of all your communications with your management. Copy all of you HR records. The chance of you surviving a PIP is very slim, so focus on the new job, and setting up for an EEOC complaint. Do not sign the separation forms on the way out. Good luck. Life is so much better when you get free!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @3scf+1iGg7lzQ

My PIP was three weeks. It was obvious on the first review, my FLM was not going to approve anything. I was 66 and near retirement anyway. So, I went along with it to see how the process work. I wasn't with IBM long enough to get the company pension. I started sharing the PIP and the results with a few of my co-workers. YMMV

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2uik+1iGg7lzQ

IBM is putting people over 45 years old on pip because they do not want to pay severange package when they RA.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2zgy+1iGg7lzQ

What is the average length of a PIP?
I'd always thought it came out of a review period and spanned to the next - and was at shortest/usual 1/2 year.
But some people have mentioned shorter ones - as short as a couple of months.
Even a FYQ would be tough to make a turnaround in anything.

I talked my way out of a mid-year PIP - with informal goals by CYE - so Checkpoint review will drive whether or not to "check that 'performance' box".

At which point at those speeds - months will have evaporated - leaving if a PIP - not a full cycle (eg from focal closing to submitting input) to do much of anything - short runway.

So how do these usually play out wrt Checkpoint, dates, re-review, what does "I got X months" mean?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2hsx+1iGg7lzQ

Is this a bench PIP we’re talking about? I thought those were pretty unfair to employees, not your fault that partners can’t sell work

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2kai+1iGg7lzQ

@1mdx, not even if it were the last shithole on Earth. LOL!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2ofj+1iGg7lzQ

FU-K IBM!!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1mdx+1iGg7lzQ

@1fnp,

I have to ask; why IBM cloud was not put on a PIP?
They would have been sacked within a few weeks.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1mbh+1iGg7lzQ

I still have to ask why wasn't Ginni Rometty placed on a pip??? she f**ked up much more then the average Joe in IBM 129 billion $$ company to $70 billion and spent over 20 billion + doing it

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1fnp+1iGg7lzQ

I can no beleeve ibm still exist. I thought this company so full of sh--s it would long gone by today. What kind of fu--s does ibm even do? Is watson still play games on tv?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1chw+1iGg7lzQ

The pip is replacing RA. However, you should speak legal advice. It is obvious there is a pattern.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1fkj+1iGg7lzQ

I'm 96% confident that you WERE unfairly placed on a PIP. Let me hazard a guess .... you're over 40 yo, right? Maybe over 50? Yeah, IBM super sucks. Their fancy Watson HR program sp-t your name out because you're too old and/or make too much money

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1qtq+1iGg7lzQ

I am completing my PIP... I won't make it. I already have a job lined up when IBM tells me I am out. IBM sucks!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xkh+1iGg7lzQ

Post a reply

: