Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Why some people stay? Health insurance

I am not an employee in the upper echelons at EM. I have worked in clerical roles and have managed to stay employed through out sourcing and layoffs. I have almost quit multiple times because of unbearable supervisors who have treated me and others in borderline illegal ways. Over the years, I’ve seen se-ual harassment, verbal abuse, and bullying.

I don’t think people see that non-exempt employees get the brunt of some of the corporations terrible decisions. If you think high CL leveled employees find they aren't treated with respect (whether through raises or assignments) or find it difficult to get time off for illness or family emergencies, it is much worse the lower you get in the organization.

I have stayed for one reason alone. Health Insurance. Although our health insurance isn’t the greatest, it is much better than most places out there for people who do clerical or administrative work. I have a disabled husband and 2 children (one with medical issues). I could not manage without good health insurance & good pay, so I stay.

This isn’t meant to political, but one of the ways corporations in the United States keep workers hostage is through health benefits. If we weren’t in a desperate situation, we wouldn’t accept the unacceptable in our work place. Even though insurance doesn’t cover many of our medical expenses, we can’t afford to lose it. I’m grateful I get paid very well for what I do, because I need that extra money for the medical bills insurance won’t pay. I’d easily take less pay and leave if I didn’t need my job for quality health insurance.

The simple fact is most people cannot save enough for a catastrophic illness. I’ve had friends who work at EM who made a lot more than me, but we’re still bankrupted by a medical emergency.

I know I’m fortunate, but like many families, our family is always fearful of the next medical event. We stay, we work, and we save in the hopes we can weather it.

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Post ID: @OP+1iPvQYN7

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EM health insurance is mediocre at best.

It's best option is a POS (point of service).

Go online and read how a POS compares with a PPO, which is what the best companies offer and you'll see how EM is low balling you.

I have friends in Shell getting their eggs frozen for free ($80k treatment). Try that with EM $hitty benefits.

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Post ID: @2kth+1iPvQYN7

Since, many great companies offer comparable health insurance, I do not understand the logic of @OP. To me, this is sad to read about someone thinking this way! I feel like @OP has an unusual and unwarranted fear.

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Post ID: @2irk+1iPvQYN7

The health insurance WAS great. It's NOW average at best. The major gap is no HSA, but in general, the plan seems to be getting squeezed to save money and justified it by saying "after a market assessment....."

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Post ID: @1eya+1iPvQYN7

Nah, I left EM and work for a company with a much better health insurance. I used to think like you, that Exxon benefits are hard to beat. But reality it’s not the best let alone worth to stay for

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Post ID: @1cdj+1iPvQYN7

Health insurance through employers is a uniquely American concept. Our health benefits are decent but not stellar. There are other companies with comparable benefits. My neighbor works in manufacturing and he pays half of what I pay each month. Our families see the same doctors. I say all that to say that staying in a toxic situation because of health benefits is not worth it, especially when you can find comparable or even better benefits elsewhere.

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Post ID: @1ohj+1iPvQYN7

My spouse’s company offer excellent health insurance. Comparable to EM.
Insurance is not a reason to stay if you are treated poorly.

Poor treatment occurs not only at lower CL level. It also happens at higher levels.

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Post ID: @gny+1iPvQYN7

I retired as a non exempt employee in 2021. Retiree insurance is not near double digits he cost - approx 25% higher though. OP - there are companies who appreciate your work, pay might be less, but benefits and healthy environment outweigh that.

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Post ID: @gmk+1iPvQYN7

@OP You can easily get another job doing what you do with health benefits.

If this is your only reason for staying, know that you have options.

If you’re going to jump, do it before the end of Q1 2023. That’s when all of the executives are going to start acting like we’re in the recession they’ve been trying to talk us into for months, whether we’re in one by then or not.

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Post ID: @rsg+1iPvQYN7

Insurance is good and a good reason to stay. although not cheap. At retirement premiums double for same coverage. If that cost keeps escalating people will need to discover an alternative then. Give yourself a chance to find a job you like which also has Insurance coverage.

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