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Perhaps Farley should study and follow Toyota…

Toyota Motor Corp. plans to keep gaspowered cars as a key part of its lineup, rejecting efforts by rivals to go fully electric amid concerns over how quickly consumers will embrace new technologies.

While the world's largest automaker will introduce more electric vehicles in the coming years, it will also offer a range of other options, including gasoline-electric hybrids, hydrogen- and traditional fossil fuel-powered models, according to Chief Executive Officer Akio Toyoda, who met with reporters Thursday.

Battery-electric vehicles “are just going to take longer than the media would like us to believe,” Toyoda, grandson of the automaker's founder, told dealers gathered in Las Vegas. He pledged to offer the “widest possible” array of powertrains to propel cars cleanly. “That's our strategy and we're sticking to it,” he said.

Toyota's stance reflects the numerous and sometimes conflicting considerations for automakers, which are seeking to boost sales, serve diverse customer bases and meet increasingly strict environmental standards in many countries. The decision contrasts with that of competitors such as General Motors Co., which has pledged to go all electric by 2035.

Environmentalists and shareholders have criticized Toyota for dragging its feet in embracing EVs, with Greenpeace putting the brand at the bottom of its ranking of global automakers' decarbonization efforts. Critics have accused Toyota of clinging to its 25-year history with the gasoline-electric Prius hybrid, which once earned Toyota plaudits.

“The fact is: a hybrid today is not green technology,” Katherine Garcia, director of the Sierra Club's Clean Transportation For All campaign, wrote in a blog post last month. “The Prius hybrid runs on a pollution-emitting combustion engine found in any gas-powered car.”

The company last year pledged to spend 4 trillion yen, or $28 billion, to roll out 30 EVs by 2030. Still, that's less than the $50 billion that Ford Motor Co. is spending to build EVs through 2026.

Despite the apparent disparity, Toyoda said his company already has been investing in battery- powered hybrids for more than two decades. He contends that makes Toyota the “top runner” in reducing carbon emissions from vehicles worldwide.

“Our investments may appear smaller than others', but when you look at what Toyota has been doing over the last 20 years, the total amount might not necessarily be small,” Toyoda said.

The CEO said a lack of sufficient infrastructure will hold back EV adoption rates, which is a factor in its decision not to go all in on electricity.

“Toyota is a department store of all sorts of powertrains,” he said. “It's not right for the department store to say, 'This is the product you should buy.'”

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The question we should be asking is why is going to EV's an all or nothing proposition to be forced on the public? As much as I know EV's are not suitable for my lifestyle or circumstances, I'm sure there are others who would find them a good option. Especially if the reduced manufacturing cost that is often touted results in a more affordable product option in the market place.

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Post ID: @2pey+1iYfJ7KS

Toyoda is a voice of sanity:

The president of Toyota Motor Corporation said this week that adhering to California’s plan to ban gas emission vehicles will be "difficult" to achieve, and battery powered cars will take longer to phase in than the "mainstream media" believes.

"Realistically speaking, it seems rather difficult to really achieve them," Toyota Motor Corporation President Akio Toyoda told reporters through a translator on Thursday discussing California’s new mandates.

"But just like the fully autonomous cars that we were all supposed to be driving by now, BEVs are just going to take longer to become mainstream than the media would like us to believe," Toyoda told car dealers at the event.

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Post ID: @2zxc+1iYfJ7KS

Toyota is never the first to market. They introduced apple & android play in the very end. Toyota is a very conservative in terms of features but that is not why they sell

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Post ID: @hxq+1iYfJ7KS

EV… George Soros money and influence in Ford.

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Post ID: @abu+1iYfJ7KS

Toyota is wrong in their company direction when it comes to EV's and paid subscriber services. They are going in a cautionary path which will be much less effective for growth and profitability than Ford's company transformation. Does Toyota even have a futuring and sustainability department? Hydrogen? Waste of time and money.

For is going directly into electrification and data stores, and we have the best team to do it under Model e.

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Post ID: @dqx+1iYfJ7KS

Toyota has invested a ton in a technology that is an even worse idea that EVs (hydrogen fuel cells). I wouldn't put them at the top of the list of companies to copy.

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Post ID: @poo+1iYfJ7KS

The one thing Toyota did right was not get in a bind with the chip shortage. This was a huge advantage.

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Post ID: @vvp+1iYfJ7KS

The shift to EVs isn't Farley. He's the puppet. The hand up his backside is Bill "I Want To Be Elon" Ford. His Ann Arbor, Ivy League, Liberal circle wouldn't allow him to stay in the circle unless he promised to ki-l Ford ICEs.

So blame Farley. Once he's outlived his uselessness there will be another Farley, probably Doug Field, to move this losing agenda forward. EVs will not be more than 30% market share until Bill is long gone. In the meantime, they'll continue to ki-l people with their lack of quality due to focusing on the wrong things.

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Post ID: @ous+1iYfJ7KS

Many people I spoke with aren’t ready to go all electric. Main reasons are cost and lack of infrastructure. Toyota will come out a winner once the dust settles

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Post ID: @san+1iYfJ7KS

Toyota will become even more of a power house once the EV concept failure is common knowledge, at the moment EVs are an unknown quantity to most people so aren’t a failure…yet.
Unless a full charge can happen as quick as filling a tank of fuel it will never be able to compete.

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