Thread regarding Ford layoffs

We know why layoffs happened but it’s the how /who

Executive Leaders keep emphasizing we Have to cut cost and become more efficient and that is their message for the layoffs. I don’t think anyone will dispute the fact that layoffs were needed, but who was let go and how they handled the situation is what is most frustrating. During these town halls they keep avoiding these issues but keep hounding on the fact we need to be more efficient and cut cost. We’ve gone through so many reorgs and the same managers and execs are still here after so many failures. When will they realize that maybe change is needed at the top for all these failed reorgs.

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Post ID: @OP+1ioTBwL1

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They need to lay people off? You get what you pay for! Inflation was >8% last year and the merit fund was < 3%.

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Post ID: @3asq+1ioTBwL1

The Ford family does not have a pulse on their company. Look at another "company" run by the Ford family...the Lions! They keep replacing players, yet still the same losing team. Enough said!

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Post ID: @2dzu+1ioTBwL1

@1qel. What you are saying is true about a healthy well run company.

This however is Ford. Ford is all about making and preserving the “good ole boys club” careers. They need body count to get promoted. That body count must be stocked with people less skilled and less ambitious than them. Loyal incompetents are preferred.
This is why the best and brightest are always given the axe.

Seriously have a look around and ask why some people are still here. In my immediate vicinity.
A women who has been passed from group to group for 25 years, her only contributions being the social director while being paid GSR 8 salary. Each group she lands in they just let her sit and do nothing. She is currently a “Database Administrator”.

A man who has told us all he is doing nothing since he is close to retirement. This began in 2011. Still here doing nothing.

A man who hasn’t completed a project in 7 years. These are simple 1-2 week projects. After 6 months each project is taken away and another person completes the project in less than a week. Still here playing video games all day.

A man who sits reading books all day, and no they are not related to work. Anytime work is being handed out he is “busy”. This has been going on since 2008. He is still here.

A woman who spends her entire day gathering and dispensing vicious gossip. She is totally incompetent but married to an LL4. This has been going on since 2001. She is still here.
Then there is the above Woman’s gang of 3 women who follow her around and help gather gossip and suck up to her. The 3 do very little work. Been going on since 2005. They are all still here

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Post ID: @1fqf+1ioTBwL1

I support @1qel+1ioTBwL1. How many times a boss can give the same review for a deadwood or family and friends members. After two quarterly review the devil under the performance review will be out. Then the efficient workforce will be working towards the best quality.DEADWOOD please retire.

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Post ID: @1cds+1ioTBwL1

Posters refer to "dead wood" when discussing and sometimes supporting layoffs.

Any "dead wood" non productive employees should be dealt with at quarterly and annual performance reviews. A layoff should not be necessary, certainly not for non-union staff.

If Ford truly does have so much "dead wood" as some suggest here then its a colossal failure of a 120 year old company to know how to manage employees and avoid accumulation of "rotten wood". It suggests a much bigger problem than under-performing workers.

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Post ID: @1qel+1ioTBwL1

Layoffs are only justified under two circumstances.

  1. A company absolutely cannot meet payroll and its financial obligations at current staff level.
  2. A company has staff that it absolutely cannot find work for, even with retraining, transferring or reorganizing.

In short, it should only be done AS A LAST RESORT.
Any other policy is destructive to the company, never mind the people ethics of doing it.
Even hard core right wing conservatives who put the needs of the companies first, must admit its not good long term for business to do this.

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Post ID: @1fuz+1ioTBwL1

Layoffs to cut costs are a favorite go-to method of American business that show a blatant lack of understanding of the business and people fundamentals of the companies these executives are leading. Layoffs do more harm that good and rarely fix a cost situation. There are also much better ways to cut staff such has using hiring freezes while letting normal turnover to reduce staff. Packages can also be offered to those who voluntarily leave. Salary increases can be frozen. Many things can be done. Most importantly, management needs to listen to employees with improvement suggestions instead of just relying on outside consultants (e.g. agile consultants) who are only looking for a quick buck and could care less about the company.

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Post ID: @1ubt+1ioTBwL1

The process was consulting with magic 8 ball on who stays and who goes.

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Post ID: @tiq+1ioTBwL1

But we needed the train station. Look at all the goodwill from it! All the money poured into it, sure going to look pretty.
For the upper management: Can we have at least a week to grieve those that we worked closely with and relationships with? I know you all have moved on, once your hitmen did the dirty work You all showing the Ford future video and saying how this is a part of moving forward, etc. really does nothing to make people feel better. You guys/gals are tone deaf

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Post ID: @zwt+1ioTBwL1

The company starts at the LL5 level….everyone below has the same status as a copy machine or desk chair. That is your answer.

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Post ID: @eat+1ioTBwL1

Cutting heads is the only way F knows how to cut costs. Management makes poor decisions about how to spend the money they do have. Let's buy a train station. I loved trains when I was a kid.

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Post ID: @alq+1ioTBwL1

The fat pigs escaped

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Post ID: @sld+1ioTBwL1

Always the same Ford plan...rinse and repeat!

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Post ID: @gyl+1ioTBwL1

It is clear that major change and reduction is needed in the LL and executive ranks, they are the obese making the terrible decisions causing warranty expenses and employee layoffs. We could lose 50% of them and not miss them, and that would save more $ than 3,000 low level salary people.

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Post ID: @xqq+1ioTBwL1

we did a poor job of identifying and eliminating the deadwood / pass-the-buckers. again

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