Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Quiet Quitting is not a we-pon

It's not something that should be used as a way to stick it to the company. Quiet quitting is just an inflammatory term for how each and every one of us should be working every day. It literally means doing our jobs as stated in our contracts. How is that not the norm? How is that considered to be a bad thing? Are we that brainwashed to believe that?

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@2cmp+1iyxXF18

"I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work."

~volfkhat

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Post ID: @dfdy+1iyxXF18

I worked around 18 hrs last week, and plan to do about the same this week. Why work hard so LLxs get their stock options.

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Post ID: @2cmp+1iyxXF18

Quiet quitting isn't impossible with the scrum process. It makes quiet quitting more effective. You don't quiet quit without purpose.

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Post ID: @1awu+1iyxXF18

@1qru+1iyxXF18 - I dunno about you, but I seem to run into an awful lot of "unexpected difficulties" anymore. Accurate effort estimation has always been BS, and it's even worse now that so many people that knew the answer, or who had it are gone. Sometimes things just go slow even when you have to shovel horse puckey every day about it. Actually you can make that useful as well, go into way too much detail during the scrum, go off on tangents, have strong opinions held weakly that you need to fight over before going along.

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Post ID: @1fdp+1iyxXF18

Jira is a joke. Unless your ticket is very specific, it is worthless. Jira doesn't work for hardware or any big ecosystem with multiple dependencies. The people in our area that were brought in to implement Jira can't even provide us with any training. They were brought in at the LL6/LL5 levels while many competent engineers who actually delivered something were let go. FMC needs more doers less yappers.

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Post ID: @1gpe+1iyxXF18

I feel Jira should be implemented in all domains do that everyone is tracked and slackers can be identified.

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Post ID: @1qnd+1iyxXF18

For the engineers using the scrum process, "quiet quitting" is impossible. You must give a daily status report of what you accomplished in the last 24 hours and your work comes in the form of a jira ticket everyone in management can view. You are tracked. They might as well put a camera behind you that records everything. Picking and choosing what you work on is not possible. Refuse anything and you're on a path out the door. I think very few workers in the U.S. are actually in a position to "quiet quit".

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Post ID: @1qru+1iyxXF18

40 hours is more than enough for the f family

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Post ID: @1lsn+1iyxXF18

In the past, there was a mutual benefit for companies to encourage retainment of employees through retiree pensions and benefits. Employees worked harder as they felt like it was an investment in their future. When that dynamic changed, so did any loyalty for both the company and employee. So here we are.

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Post ID: @sij+1iyxXF18

@OP Quiet quitting is the new reality. Employees everywhere have finally woken up to their mistreatment by employers. Mistreatment being the empty and broken promises (aka boldface lies) companies tell us year after year. Promises of that dangling carrot of pay raises, promotions and that you are 'family'. Promises that if you work 45+ hour work weeks (often more), sacrifice family time, don't take your vacations/PTO, give up your weekends in the name of teamwork you too will become a valuable member of 'our' team. There is no longer a 'team.' It is 'us' and 'them.'

Employees are exhausted at being taken advantage of. We are starting to do what is in our contracts. No more. No less. An employer/employee relationship is a 2-way street (give and take). Employers have been treating that relationship as 1-way for far too long.

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Post ID: @caf+1iyxXF18

I remember the first year I worked I never took any personal time. They gave me a mug for perfect attendance. Never again. My health is worth more than a mug..

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Post ID: @mjl+1iyxXF18

I don't care about the company and Yes I work for FORD.
We are not a Family and if they can cut me they will.
So 40 hours and careless (for real). Do you job and go home.
If Ford is doing well they will still be looking for ways to cut your job so if you work 40.5 you are a losing 1/2 hour of your lift for nothing.
These companies don't give a sh-t so we don't too.

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Post ID: @ofx+1iyxXF18

@OP. Ambition is part of the human beings, and as such, we try to escalate the working place hierarchies by working HARDER. That means going beyond the job description, spending our own time/money to improve our skills, working extra hours for free with the hope of management noticing this and reward us with better salaries/bonuses. This is not a bad thing!

What is wrong is the response from Ford management: lousy bonuses/lying about it, promoting the deadwood, demanding employees to work longer hours with no OT, laying off the best workers because of a pension or age, piling more responsibilities and blame on employees, you name it.

So I don't see the adoption of Quiet Quitting at FMC as a "we@pon", nor as a punishment to the company, but a wake up call to all the Ford workforce. It is the expression of disappointment, the sound of all those ambition goals bursting, the reality of disenchanted workers, the pain of the laid off employees who were lied to with HTHD, pensions, "We are a family" slogans, realizing it is just business, that there are no reason behind the backstabbing of its own employees but money.

So don't take it personally: it is just business. We are telling to the Ford family that, as in other business transactions, if you want more, you'd have to pay more. Welcome to the business world, Billy Boy!

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Post ID: @lvf+1iyxXF18

Unfortunately with the cost of college tuition/r&b, mortgage, taxes, home owners insurance, various other life necessities and my better half does not want to live under a bridge over pass it will be back to Dog - Eat Dog day in and day out.

This company has a reputation for pitting employees performance and b.s. (sloughs) skills against one another.

ymmv

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