Thread regarding Ford layoffs

@1yeu+1jVMXdXT Promoted to a new position this year. Quite frankly, basically being dumped on a deserted island with no direction is pretty much the Ford way in or remot for years. Perhaps its been awhile since your last move. Long gone are the days where people helped each other out. Ford long ago implemented the Hunger Games work environment so even if your rear end was sitting in the office today, likely you'd be ignored or hear...sorry, can't help you, I'm crashing on something.

I think some roles are just fine working entirely remotely. They genuinely do not need to be in a company office or to interact with their peers. Like that senior exec out in California.

Some roles do require occasional in person collaboration. But I guarantee most of return to office is just going to be people sitting at desks with ear buds in and watching webex meetings.

And for the person that benefits from the office chatter, I commend you. Most of what I saw was people chatting about their kids or wives of weekends. And this would go on for 30 minutes or more. I don't think RTO will change that...

Miss the fragrant fish being cooked in the microwave. Bathrooms backed up. So much gossip and verbal flattering of the boss, it's hard to concentrate on actual work without hiding out in a conference room to mute the noise.

@1yeu

Absolutely right, even for an experienced employee, like myself, it is nice to listen the office "chatter" since other work issues could be related to my work components and I
get a heads up on information much faster and avoid being blind sighted.

The new PDC building is taking shape, building 6 and the old PDC have been remodeled. So, there will be RTO in form or another.

BTW, there was a lot of traffic this week going to the old PDC building

I was working remotely very well in an established Ford job I had been doing for 15 years. Productivity was better than being in the office due to lack of people interrupting me, and I could work at whatever time of day was appropriate for my overseas customers. Then I was transferred into a totally new department with a huge learning curve. The department was all working remotely and it was frustrating and super inefficient trying to learn without the in-person experience. You learn so much just overhearing conversations, and it's easy to ask a question over the wall , or take a quick walk to get an explanation or opinion. Instead I had to schedule meetings, hope an IM gets answered, chase phone calls and voice mail, and deal with people that didn't bother to respond. Nobody wants to take time out of their quiet quitting to help out the new person since it eats into their personal time. It's no exaggeration to say 80% of my time for the first four months was spent seeking answers, searching and studying outdated or non-existent procedures, trying to get access to systems, doing worthless online training, bothering people or crafting detailed emails of what I was trying to do in hopes of getting someone to answer. I have never met any of my co-workers in person, and haven't developed the same friendships and working relationships that made work tolerable in the past. So I see the argument for work from home for experienced workers, but it's not conducive to learning a new complicated job. Ford was never good at job transition training before and it's way worse now. I can't imagine what brand new employees are going through. If their experience is anything like mine was they won't stay at Ford.

Employees know about these tactics
They are well equipped now to thwart their moves and are smarter than the ones with fancy designations

From WaPo, make your plan to get back to work in the office. But I’m not coming back until my office in the Train Station is ready for occupancy.

Demand for remote jobs remains near all-time highs, even as companies roll back telework positions. Fifty percent of job applications submitted on LinkedIn are for work-from-home positions, which make up just 15% of listings, according to a recent report from the jobs site.

“It's the 'great remote work mismatch,' “ said Rand Ghayad, head of economics and global labor markets at LinkedIn, who wrote the recent report. “In the past, labor mismatches have been about skills. Now we're seeing a different kind of mismatch, where workers are looking for jobs that offer certain attributes - like the ability to work remotely - that employers aren't willing to offer.”

Although there are nearly two job openings for each applicant when it comes to on-site work, the opposite is true for remote jobs: There are two active applicants for each available workfrom- home job on LinkedIn. That means the gap between demand for jobs and supply of workers for on-site positions is four times higher than it is for remote work, according to Ghayad.

Never doubt the disengagement and the resentful among your ranks.

You won't ever know whom, or how many, or at what time. You won't know who has silently quit, or just quit in their mind. You won't know who is speaking, and wishes your business to fall into ruin over time.

At the end of the day, you, yes YOU, create chaos because what you consider good for your and the corporation, created direct opposition to someone that feels very differently.

At the end of the day, most that silent quit remain quiet. Those that choose to go vocal, become targets.

I intend to silent quit if made to return. Bring me back, and I'll work barely enough to keep my job, but just enough to earn that measly 1-2% raise per year, and whatever BS bonus. Just enough to keep workflow pushed through. Salary has it's perks, and you will have to really work to fire any of us.

With lack of people with a pulse these days, due to clotshotting to death, and lack of talent availability, and millions of corporations looking to hire anyone with a heartbeat, do you think any employee really has anything to worry about?

Corporations, that took direction from Government, brought this sh-t on themselves. ALL corporations were instructed to follow the government mandate. This is the result of participation. Time to pay the piper. No effs given for your loss.

There is an element of truth to this. People do work better together when they have connections and those connections are easier to form in person.

That being said, multiple people I had great connections with were laid off this year and replaced with people in other countries.

You want to spend thousands of dollars per year in gas and vehicle maintenance to sit in in a cube? Be my guest, but don’t force that on the rest of us. Not going above and beyond is the failure of the higher ups to reward that behavior in the past. Top achiever was a joke and only set Ford up for failure because many of those who did go above and beyond were overlooked because of percentage constraints. Now they’re cutting bonuses of everyone to try and award those that go way above and beyond. What do you expect when you only give workers 80% of their bonus for meeting objectives? You expect a 20% cut in productivity. Then there’s the threats of layoffs hanging over everyone’s head. Wrong move.

Where are all the people going to go back to? Many of the office buildings are shut down or sold. There are a handful of colocation 'hotels' that you have to reserve but they don't have the capacity for a RTO.

If your job requires you to be on site to complete your responsibilities you should return to office. For others it should be optional. It is very easy to determine where each one should be working from.

What in the world will return to office help when most of the engineers I deal with and the ones that need the most help are in Brazil, Mexico, and China?!?!?

I still have to webex with them from my home in southeast Michigan or if I report to a Dearborn office.

Sorry to tell you but the damage was done this past February when the management team rolled out the bonus plan. Follow that up with comments from the master of ceremonies himself Jim Farley, that same week about the age of his workforce. Way to go EINSTEIN.
Then a few weeks back the 9k Mexican engineers they are hiring. Way to go Captain Obvious.
The man is not believable. He has lost the trust of the ground troops. what he will not tell you since he lacks a SPINE. Your jobs are going south of the border. not because of too many heads but cost. but don't YOU worry. JF & BF want you to subsidize their EV research and building cars south of the border. No thank you.

For whom should we rto?
I wouldnt move a muscle for this worthless mgmt

Yea... Maybe it will help prevent all these recalls! Lazy work from home workers do the minimum! It shows in product quality. What a mess!

Wrong

Quite frankly it is not my job to transfer my knowledge. Haven't the seniors said those with knowledge have nothing to offer and are not trainable. That these unexperienced know all based on absolutely nothing. Also, I certainly don't want to go back to sitting in an office and go back to the times of getting other people's work dumped on me with the wink of 'going above and beyond' yet never be acknowledged.

Bro our team launched an entire product with people all over the US, creativity doesn’t die in WFH unless you’re just not creative. And I actually like coming into the office too, but to say R2O will make that much of a difference is very boomer of you to say