Ford has been a place where people went to get paid to warm their chairs. They invented Quiet Quitting long time ago. Industry is just catching up! :D
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Something I don't know that previous post mentioned....at what LLx leadership level do you get to work on a contract? Does hr have some standard golden parachute contract or does favorite candidates get the best deal?
Every position should be reviewed and evaluated. You should be able to prove what is/is not needed.
Working around the company in multiple roles I can confidently tell you that I witnessed some jobs were overloaded, while some had barely any work to do. And yet, the barely-there worker who was the schmoozer, networker, loafer was pulling higher PR's because they were some manager's golf pal, lunch pal, favorite.
Look around at some of the managers! HOW did they become managers?
Shouldn't HR be doing a better job, too?
Why do you need so many Executives? What, exactly, are they really doing? And WHY do they make so much money? Their contracts are more than many of the employees will make in their career at Ford! Let that sink in for you!
Sad! Ford was once a GREAT company. Now.......................
If 50% have to be cut they will cut the top 50% so that it will be easy to manage the bottom 50%
"Ford can cut 50% of the workforce and the company will still be fine."
Really? If the 50% who remain are smart, they will ask for a huge raise for doing double the work...or find a job at a better company.
@1rxl+1jaGRVR2 Done-Yets! Gonna remember that one! The other "great" thing is people who have not done the work and could not do the work telling you and everybody else what the process should be. No, I think I'll trust the engineers doing the work, thank you.
npy While I agree that Ford management are filled with slackers. I don’t agree that all the worker bees are hard workers. In your area that could be true, definitely not in my area. In my area maybe 20% are hard workers.
When I first started at Ford I believed people when they told me that managers were “making” them drag their feet or that managers were creating bureaucracy. After awhile I realized that many worker bees were manufacturing processes and procedures to make it appear that they were working / allow them to loaf. I got a project done in a week that a team of loafers project plan said it would be 18 months. That angered the loafers and I got an invite to talk to LL4. He clearly understood the game that was afoot. He shuffled some LL5 and LL6, but the loafers continue their game to this day. Now the loafers purposely exclude me from all their project planning because they know I will call them ion their BS. And of course the loafers are continually bad mouthing me.
Ford has some great engineers. The process has just ki---d any productivity. Change control and management yes men. Too many Done-yets watching every body work. The seasoned teams could do wonderful work if just left alone to do it but every Tom di-k and harry wanted to rubber stamp the process. I think stuff was changed just to create work for over staffed departments. So glad I got SIRP’d.
Your post is pure garbage. I was one of the people who was separated, and I have never been a slacker. If I needed more work, I would look/ask for it. My whole team was hard workers, I don't think anybody was a slacker, and people I worked with on other teams were not slackers for the most part either. Things took a long time because of Ford processes and Ford Management, not the worker bees, tell the truth! For every worker bee slacker, there are probably at least 10 management slackers.
Ford can cut 50% of the workforce and the company will still be fine. There are lots of unproductive employees at Ford. They will not leave the cushion jobs because they cannot find another job somewhere else.
They invented quiet staying
Get the pay , do no work and stay there
I am talking of certain lls and executives. so called
Yes! when you are a number in an axle file at HR and MBAs you can careless !
I will always get good reviews with doing min!
Keep getting more MBAs
It is an interesting phenomena. Wife moved here to Michigan in 1998 to work for Ford. She marveled at how little work people did and how long things took to get done. She was on a team of 18 people and it took years to do the work she did at her previous employer in a few months. It ended up she was doing all the work and the 17 others were taking bows, slinging arrows and setting up roadblocks. 2008 cut half the team, but now the team is 25 and most still are just sitting and twirling.