The firing of 24 remote employees from Equifax’s workforce is the result of a months-long internal investigation by the company, says Insider. The company allegedly looked through the records of at least 1,000 employees—including human resources and cybersecurity professionals—using its own software called The Work Number.
https://gizmodo.com/equifax-work-from-home-1849658823
It’ll be a hot minute before they start selling that software to other companies to do the same.
Double Dipping is not working 2 jobs. Double Dipping is working 2 remote jobs simultaneously as in at the same time during the same hours. Most businesses see this as a conflict of interest.
@1kfa+1jdjOZj9 - Please keep your arrogance and lack of perspective to yourself. Not everyone has had an opportunity YET to be in a space that allows them to address all unexpected life challenges.
Life happens and catches people off guard and creates the need at times to have a 2nd job.
Car accidents, illness, surgery, family issues and life challenges sometimes hit at the same time and exhaust emergency funds and for younger workers that have not had the time to build a strong emergency fund.
Many times I took a 2nd job to ensure my children could participate in sports, music, and preparations for significant events - it is not WF's business or yours, nor is it something to be ashamed of.
Nothing tickles the fancy of executive like rooting out the problem of the moment. The only people it excites more are journalists.
Published today: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2022/10/17/troubling-trend-of-overemployment-can-a-side-hustle-get-you-fired/?sh=4951cace3c5c
@2rsb+1jdjOZj9 Irony, dead yet again.
I hope the former Equifax employees were not in technology. Disgruntled Technology teams can bring down your whole system. Besides, Equifax is scandal ridden, from what I read.
@1fad+1jdjOZj9 Do all the Karens in the world work at WF!? Parsing every word and filling it with your assumptions. You sound like you work in Tech Control.
Months long investigation to snare 24 employees? Stupid.
Now that’s a rule you never break. You never double dip the chip. Ever!
Never double dipped the chip
Jokers talking about a liveable wage. Who doesn’t get paid one at WF? Besides, who says they are double dipping because they NEED the money? Maybe they just WANT it?
I used to double dip but I got tired of it. $1500 a week cash, only paper trail was the one of me dropping green backs. But the time investment got tiring after 4 years and I had everything I wanted already.
Those Equifax employees got sloppy. If it’s company policy, not to have two jobs, then you have three choices. Stick with the company and make it your full-time commitment. Quit. Create NO paper trail for the second job.
What’s sad is that so many people can’t think past the nose on their face.
How is this any different than what companies are doing to employees? WF is laying off staff but telling those still here to work 2+ jobs, but without additional pay.
True. I remember being handed a piece of paper that said ‘employment at will’. Are people truly that ignorant not knowing there is a paper trail when they have two jobs on the record?
Don’t be ignorant!
I usually get some down votes when I try calling out those individuals who feel a sense of entitlement. Livable wage? Unions? Dream on!
If you want socialism, go to Venezuela.
We live in a dog eat dog country. Survival of the fittest. You get what you pay for. If you didn’t get what you paid for, you make them pay for not getting you what you paid for.
This is the country with laws that allow you to be all you can be. You want reparations? You want handouts? You want freebies? Dream on!
Remember, you were hired to do a specific job. If the company sticks it to you, stick it right back. This is business.
the prior poster said "it is illegal"
they didn't say.,, the law will be with the company because there's employment at-will.
those are two different things.
Something that is "illegal" is subject to criminal or civil prosecution. you can't be civilly or criminally charged with "working two jobs at the same time".
It's telling that the two comments on here about paying people a reasonable wage have the most downvotes.
@1prl+1jdjOZj9 like most things law related - may not be a direct law about it (eg, illegal to work 2 jobs in same hours) but there’s another law that can make it true in practice (eg, at will employment).
Though there are no laws banning employment by more than one company, you can still be terminated for doing so if your employment is at will. Avoiding conflicts of interest, reduced productivity and performance, or the commingling of time or property can minimize the risk of dismissal.
https://www.getlegal.com/the-legal-implications-of-working-two-jobs/
If you have to work more than one job, then you haven’t quite managed your budget And you need some professional financial advice. For example, anticipate everything becoming more expensive year-over-year. Buy low and sell high. Look before you leap. The Lord doesn’t always provide, other people step in to subsidize your poor decision-making.
Here’s what I learned:
It's pretty simple, get pre-approved and you're fine. Not during the same hours, but I don't have time to double dip during working hours anyway.
I told you all months ago on one of the RTO complain chains that a big reason why they are forcing RTO is to break this trend. I know a guy who works three remote jobs. It is against policy. It is something that never even crossed my mind. And the consulting agencies hiring people already working at WF will lose their preferred vendor status and you are going to lose your job.
"It is illegal, and no EEOC case will ever be won, for working for more than 1 employer during the same working hours"
it is not illegal. it can be against a company's policy (which it is for WF and obviously, for equifax), but it is not illegal.
So many of these replies are so “Stagecoach”. They don’t pay me enough, waaahhhh. Good luck with that, waaahhhh. EEOC - hilarious. They must have applied for credit is how they were found out - DUH!
None of these people either read the article, knows how employment law works or both.
You want to get paid more? Get some in demand skills and go get a better job! It is illegal, and no EEOC case will ever be won, for working for more than 1 employer during the same working hours. Equifax, and banks in a lot of cases, have more data about you that you know or can comprehend. So much data Equifax wrote a computer program, The Work Number, and it flagged the people they went on to investigate.
Equifax makes its money providing data and services to various companies. Absolutely no doubt they will start selling The Work Number to places and companies will use it just the way they did.
Kudos to the poster who mentioned that you need permission for ANY employment outside WF. It is policy and it is part of the agreement you sign when you are hired, which most don’t even remember but they have your signature. So they have two angles they can use to clean house (no severance): double dipping with work hours overlap and double dipping without approval when not overlapping.
And remember, double dippers, you’re at risk not once but twice if this software is widely adopted. Good luck explaining being fired for that.
If wages had kept up with inflation, people wouldn't be double dipping. It's simple economics, yet all these bank execs don't understand it. No wonder they can't right this ship.
They probably applied for credit or applied for a loan. That’s how they get your current employer. When dipping, reveal your current job to no one. Only then you will be safe. Amateurs..
Wells Fargo can’t handle basic banking transactions effectively. I’m not feeling too concerned.
@fnf If that actually happens to my already-stretched-beyond-breaking team, I am looking forward to a year+ of paid vacation. Pewp or get off the pot already.
You’re going down hard in November. I’ll send you a box of Kleenex. No more participation trophies.
Keep your employees happy. Nothing worse than a disgruntled employee. If you don’t make enough money, then find another job that pays better.
Equifax? The company that had hired a music major as its chief security officer and had a massive data breach few years ago when hackers got our SS#, DOB etc.?
Please, secure your data before you investigate your employees.
Were the jobs still getting done?
I could easily double-dip and get my job done on all but the busiest of days, which are few and far between. This whole war on the worker class is just another form of corporate colonialism.
If you want people to stop double-dipping, start paying them enough so they don't have to. Wages have been stagnant for 40 years, how else are people supposed to make ends meet?
Lol we’re at the point where companies can limit the income we make by stopping folks from working multiple jobs? We’ll start at the top with these bummy CEOs working on their companies and being board members of different companies. Fu----g fire them first
you have to get approval at wells fargo to work somewhere else at the same time due to conflict of interest plus you need approval from your manager (I have been through the process)
If the employees worked the same hours at their other job, the same or overlapping hours that they were on the clock for Equifax, then the terminations are justified and don't expect the employees to fight it. No attorney would be that stupid to take on a losing matter.
Good luck with that!
Can you say, “EEOC”?