Thread regarding Ford layoffs

My building has been open over two years. We were told not to work from the office unless necessary. Over time, those who were stir crazy at home started coming in almost full time. Others adopted a fixed hybrid schedule. Some, myself included, still work mostly from home but come into the office as needed to use equipment, collaborate, or to get a change of scenery. It is working out well for our team.

Here is the billion(s) dollar question: if Bill ends WFH, will our dismal quality improve?

I say not a chance, as that is not the major problem with this company.

Whether you work from home or work in the office seven days per week it makes no difference. You are a North American worker and you are soon going to be replaced with cheaper foreign labor.

If you think you can keep working from home for the same price indefinitely, get ready for someone somewhere else to do it for a lot cheaper and you'll be SOL.

ALL of this math is being run now. If you expect cushy WFH, you'll be shown the door and outsourced or offshored.

Stop whining from home. Some salaried employees went back to work when the production workers did. Our jobs were at risk every day for not wearing our masks the way mgt. wanted. You wouldn't know because you weren't there. I had enough of that and took the 6 month deal.

There is no doubt they want to get workers back to the office. Not sure when the mandate will come. Make no mistake, Farley wants people back in the office.

Let's not be hypocrites here Billy ! Please do not force us to become 'climate criminals'. If you care so much about the environment and are all on-board with 'climate action now', and the mark-cyst regime then to require anyone to RTO if they do not need to is a 'waste of energy' and will pollute mother giaiaia ! Do not make us burn more fossil fuels or you are an evnviro-criminal hypocrite ! Do not build more coal plants to charge EVs and run huge server farms that suck up massive amounts of energy so you can help BigTechGov track and control us. Greedy soulless hypocrites - all of them.

Covid fcked the normalcy of what we perceived in the world. They gave us 2-3 years of working from home, no drive time, yet we still got our work done. We still kept the corporation making billings. These S-B's, didn't even pay a penny towards our electric or internet bill. So yeah, fck their inefficient back to work mandates.

Deception works both ways. The corporation applies this daily. The people, if required to return back to work, will apply it as well. Don't be surprised when you have to hire twice as many just to get your stuff done, because we aren't motivated to work. And, good effing luck trying to replace us. 50 plus years they couldn't do it. And with everyone dying or getting injured due to their cl**shots, heart inflammation injuries, good luck on limited talent. Good luck hiring fence hoppers that can barely tie their shoes.

Your employees hold all the cards, and if you don't soon recognize it, the BIG 3, are going the way of the BURIED 3.\

Fitting. Deserving.

@1arp - I've definitely spotted those people both in & out of the office. Unfortunately if their management chain doesn't do anything about it there's not much those of us who believe in putting in full day can do about it. If you find yourself stuck waiting on something from these sorts so you can continue, send an email and webex them that you're waiting on them to be able to proceed with your work. That'll provide you have time-stamped confirmation that you're blocked. And then you might as well go "get coffee", get your daily walking in, long lunch, etc. Follow up again in 2-4 hours, and when they still haven't provided what you need it's time to wash, rinse, repeat.

My cray-cray coworkers are all saying if they are forced back to the office that commute time will be part of their 8 hour wall clock work hours. So if 1 hour commute each way that is 6 hours in the office less the 1.5 hour lunch and 2x a day half hour walk = 3.5 hours of working. By the time the coffee breaks, restroom breaks and casual chitchat are taken out 2.5 hours of work a day at best.
In other words same amount of work they are doing now

I miss working in the office. I'll finally get to have my long bs sessions and 1.5+ hr long lunches with work friends again, get my walking steps back up where they should be, will be able to take test cars home with unlimited miles and gas, finally have access to print hardcopy color prints free of charge, free coffee, and no more supporting late afternoon meetings since I'll be commuting home.....what are all you mad about?

We will return to offices as soon as the Train Station has a certificate of occupancy. Not anytime soon. I drove by there the other day, and it is nowhere near ready to open. When they started working on it, it was supposed to be finished about now. But, four years and billions of dollars later, when will Bill Ford be held accountable for wasting capital that could have been spent on employee retention, dividends to shareholders, or improving vehicle quality?

RTO won't make anyone work any harder. It just means people will barely work hard enough.

And if you think they'll be replacing the designers and engineers anytime soon, that hasn't worked for 50 years. And with the crapshot injuring people left and right (oh my inflamed heart), good luck finding talent. Fence hoppers can't do what designers and engineers do.

They are not pouring millions into new buildings just to have them sit empty. RTO will happen, the question is when. Furthermore, deals are made between corporations and the state and getting the sheep back in and circulating their money is a part of it. Another plandemic lockdown scheme would postpone RTO if they chose to run that option on the masses.

You want to know what Ford and Farley will do? Look at what Tesla and Musk do. Ford will follow in 3-6 months. If they don't announce RTO by EOY, you can count on it really next year.

RTO is not going to happen anytime soon for my area. The building has been gutted and there are no more cubes, and very few printers. I haven't seen any docking stations. There's not enough room to house everyone. I don't think there will be RTO until the Dearborn campus is finished.

I'm the OP. Make no mistake there is no data that supports RTO. For some groups is makes sense - but as an overal policy there's aboslutely no data supporting the move. You can thank GM for ki----g remote. It's a domino effect. Now everybody is going to go 3x/wk+. Sorry that I have bone headed senior leadership. I know Farely is just going to march lock step with Mary and cite the same BS data.

RTO likely beginning in Jan 2023. Three days per week. Speculation.