Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Do I have to RTO if I really didn't want to? Is there a proven excuse to avoid it?

"The only way to police this is to only have desktops at the HUB. Get rid of all laptops."

Not the only way. They could disable vpn access from your user logon.

The only way to police this is to only have desktops at the HUB. Get rid of all laptops.

Never say never… In the early 2000’s Stankey pulled off this brilliant maneuver when he was VP - Industry Markets (Wholesale). Laptops were replaced with desktops, however you could use your home PC to remote in. Had to use pencil and paper for meetings away from the desk. All to save a few bucks on laptop leases.

Just let HR know. They will be accommodating.

If you told to RTO then yes you need to RTO. There are no exceptions.

Yes. I know of no one in my org that has an exception and know people that left after being told to RTO with medical issues

I’m already 75 miles from my reporting location, and it’s in the system. Doesn’t change anything.

The only way to police this is to only have desktops at the HUB. Get rid of all laptops.

You could test it and see.

Go 75 miles away from your job reporting location and rent a P.O. Box, then go to HROnestop and change your address to the P.O.Box .

Then see if that exempts you from having to report to work.

If it does let us know, it might be a good strategy..

Brilliant Post ! Someone will try this !

As I understood, one must be within 50 miles of the assigned location. It started with the "collaboration zone" buildings but they kept hacking those buildings down. So initially a few years ago many people were possibly under a 50-mile commute to an office they could work out of. Now for most people, it's pretty much Atlanta or Dallas. I would expect Atlanta wouldn't be remaining in the end.

Depends on your organization but for many of them you still need to RTO if you live over 50 miles from your assigned location. I knew several people who have a 90 plus mile one-way commute, but it was either put up with the long drive or move closer to a Hub.

You could test it and see.

Go 75 miles away from your job reporting location and rent a P.O. Box, then go to HROnestop and change your address to the P.O.Box .

Then see if that exempts you from having to report to work.

If it does let us know, it might be a good strategy..

No, the alternative is to resign, unfortunately

Probably the same person always asking for the detailed metrics showing how RTO productivity will be “measured” , etc. Hint: they don’t exist.

Nor does a “rule book” clearly stating who can keep NVW status, detailing mileage requirements for RTO etc. it doesn’t exist.

You are not special for living 50 miles away.

Yes!

If your office location was changed by ATT and it’s greater than 50 miles to the new location you are entitled to severance if you do not want to move or drive..

Anything less than 50 you can quit or be fired for not showing up to work.

"So what qualifies somebody to be VW vs FTO then if it’s not a cutoff at a specific distance?"

There is no cut off or distance.

So what qualifies somebody to be VW vs FTO then if it’s not a cutoff at a specific distance?

These guys wanted to take their big city slicker remote salary out into the boonies where they could buy up real estate and then lord over the 5000 population town as the local slum lord. No sympathy from me.

Or maybe they moved to the only place they could afford…

Again.. we are all different! We are not equal. RTO exceptions are up to your manager decision.
Some will get it and others wont under the same circumstances.
We, again, are not “equal”. Is this concept so foreign to y’all ?

These guys wanted to take their big city slicker remote salary out into the boonies where they could buy up real estate and then lord over the 5000 population town as the local slum lord. No sympathy from me.

"ATT didn’t tell you to move 50 miles away, that’s on you. Welcome back."

Well, maybe the company changed the location of their workplace. In Atlanta, you could have a 25 minute commute to the Alpharetta location and be over 50 miles from the mid-town offices. As well, you could have an easy MARTA commute to the mid-town office and have a 3 hour commute to Alpharetta. So, maybe no one moved. Maybe the company is led by a bunch of A-holes!

There are hundredths (if not more by now) of RTO exceptions all over the company due to many reasons including the one you asked about. No rules.
Your manager/boss needs to appreciate your situation and will require an RTO exception for you, providing only that you show up at an office hub once a month.
It is all up to your own manager decision..

Welcome to the T “equality” new world.
Good luck ..

Why would you be any different from all other employees?

Nope, no laws.

ATT didn’t tell you to move 50 miles away, that’s on you. Welcome back.

If you told to RTO then yes you need to RTO. There are no exceptions.

YUUUUP

There are no federal laws. You have to look at your state. Likely none there either.

In the United States, there are no federal laws explicitly dictating a maximum driving distance to work, meaning employers can generally require employees to commute from any distance, although factors like "reasonable travel time" and local traffic conditions are considered when determining if a commute is acceptable; typically, normal commuting time is not considered "work time" and is not paid by the employer unless specific circumstances apply like a special work assignment in a distant location.
Key points to remember:
No set limit: No federal law defines a maximum driving distance to work.

Exceptions to the rule:
Special assignments:
If an employee is sent to a different location for a specific work assignment, travel time may be compensated.
Employer-provided vehicle:
If an employer requires an employee to use their vehicle for work-related travel during their commute, it might be considered compensable time.
State regulations:
Some states may have specific laws regarding travel time for certain types of employees.

Guessing you will have to “follow the work” aka relocate on your own dime, to keep your job.