Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

T doesn’t owe you a thing. None of you ever delivered much of anything anyway. Remember all those comments you told your friends how you got paid for doing nothing. Well now you have to go to the office. You poor spoiled babies.

“You’re either a narcissist or a sociopath. Probably a lot of both.”

Sounds like C suite material.

"Those kinds of accommodations might actually shine a spotlight on some of the glaring issues."

While your second attempt at getting your message across was a little tamer you are still missing the point that the corporation DOES NOT CARE. The ends justify the means. When the CTO of the corporation states publicly that hub locations do not have enough desks for everyone you know the leaders just don't give a sh1+.

I think people are misinterpreting and assuming that I am defending the policy, which I'm not. That being said, anyone getting that impression, well, that's entirely on me for striking the tone that I did.

I'm not pretending that RTO is about collaboration. You have people told to report to offices in Atlanta and Dallas so they can manage their nationwide and worldwide teams over zoom... definitionally, not in-person collaboration. Many have said it on these forums, and I largely agree... collaboration was an excuse repeated to help leadership provide a fig leaf of justification.

What I am saying is that your commute is not legally actionable in terms of ADA accommodations. It simply isn't. The ADA can force the company to make allowances and compromises for you in the office, but it doesn't give you a legal justification to WFH, even if you medically can't drive. Essentially, it boils down to take an uber, or a cab. The company CAN opt to grant an accommodation when they aren't legally forced to, but spoiler, they're not going to during this RTO push. It would open them up to credible discrimination suits.

For those who are bringing up loathsomely lacking work environments within those buildings... those things are 100% legally actionable via an accommodation. If you have a back condition and require a certain kind of chair and desk arrangement, the company is going to be legally forced to provide it. Instead of people coming onto these forums and talking about what foods trigger gas attacks as a literally childish form of lashing out, do something productive... and seek accommodations that are supported by the ADA.

Standing desks. Custom chairs. Isolated workspaces. Ergonomic keyboards. Relocation within the office to ease mobility issues, and so on and so forth.

Those kinds of accommodations might actually shine a spotlight on some of the glaring issues. The company can still deny them, claiming an undue hardship on the business unit... but if their undue hardship is caused by deliberately forcing 200 people into an office that supports 100, they are going to have a tough time defending that in court.

I thought the hybrid was perfect. Flexibility and collaboration.

But most of us do like RTO. It is just the few complainers that post on this site. We missed the collaboration. But we love getting away from home, the kids, and the spouse. I do miss my Costco runs, mowing the yard, and golf outings. But overall I love RTO. Thank you John

Let me guess, in the face of clear and obvious rejection of your thoughts, you still believe you’re right.

Hahaha….

You’re either a narcissist or a sociopath. Probably a lot of both.

Right or wrong, legal or illegal, moral or immoral..
The last 10 years have been filled with take aways and or give backs, many even lost the job itself. No one should be surprised that the long term employees are feeling a sense of loss and betrayal. And there are no guarantees folks, unlike the bs new ad campaign....we don't believe you.

Attention everyone. OP sounds like our little yapping chicken legg CTO going on another rant. Thanks Jeremy for mansplaining to all of us adults with families, children and homes. Thanks for inviting us to Atlanta with the purest of intentions and all the sincerity of a vampire su-king the blood out of his victims. You lied from day one about reducing contractors and increasing employee headcount, leaving out the part that you were selling Americans down the river and hiring Indian counterparts to save a buck. What a little cu-t. Nice reputation you made for yourself you dou--ebag. Nobody believes a word you say anymore. Your credibility is shot and this debacle will follow you for the rest of your career. Good riddance from a classmate of 12/13.

John…hi!

I’m with OP.

“OP, you purposefully failed to address on thing in you post you mo--n ja----s ball sniffer.”

I’m fine with the final directions you gave the OP, but stop blaming DEI on your problems. Lame.

OP, you purposefully failed to address on thing in you post you mo--n ja----s ball sniffer.
And that is MOVING EMPLOYEE JOBS OUT OF STATE for zero work related reasons and THEN telling them to come to the office. And when they agreed to move, laying them off anyway so they can be replaced with a DEI hire. So FUDGE YOU and your MOTHER!!!!!!!!!

“Lazy don't change.”

Idi0t - lazy knows no work location.

Tell us how you really feel Stank. Where do you personally draw the line OP?

OP is wise. Lazy don't change.

Hired for a 40 hour week and on call 24 hours was not the stated job when hired. Work location moved over 100 miles from a 2 mile commute. The company changes the rules with the intent of reducing head count. Giving a benefit that cost the company nothing is removing a benefit. Many employees continued to work long hours so as to keep the work from home. Companies in the past treated employees as their most valuable asset and the reward was a good dividend for share owners. Now all for to share owners and just be glad you still have a job.

You like attention don’t you? Well I’ll give you some. AT&T is run by sc-m. It’s a fact, any company that would treat their customers and employees the way they have is not a good person. This is about right and wrong. This transcends business and is about right and wrong. AT&T is evil because it enables evil and increases human suffering.

why so angry Stank, what ruffled your feathers and got u over excited

OP: We spent 3 years being told what a wonderful job we were doing while working from home. All the successes that have been lauded for the previous 18 months were implemented or managed during the 3 years most of the company management worked from home.
Then we were told that you really did not do that good of a job and we have to change the culture to be successful. To do that we all have to go back into the office.
Major contradiction #1
Many of us are too old to contribute to the company's success. To create the future leaders of the company we need to them to be mentored. Back to the office. But who is going to mentor those young future leaders since you want to get rid of all of the older employees.
Major Contradiction #2
To get the best out of the employees they have to collaborate. Back into the office which on the surface makes sense. But the leaders of the company did not follow through on collaboration -- make sure everyone has a desk and make sure those people that need to collaborate are seated together -- simple stuff. However, the company chose not to provide the inexpensive basics.
I could go on but you already know the truth probably. Both of these contradictions showed the employees that they really were not concerned with collaboration or the future leaders of the company. It was a blatant lie. Through that Stankey changed/destroyed the culture of the company. (Not the culture change he was looking for).
Do I want to go into the office 5 days. No, but I have done it before, and I would su-k it up and do it again without complaint IF I had a place to go to. These jobs are AT&Ts but the employees do have a right to reasonable work spaces.
OP, either you are being disingenuous in your in your opinion or you are too witless to see the truth. Or you are just here to stir emotion. None of which are positive attributes for yourself. Have a nice life.

I support this thread.

Your point completely falls apart for the scenario I was placed in. I was commuting to my local office which was one of the nine sanctioned hubs and was required to move to a different hub over 1000 miles away for no actual reason other than so I would leave. My team was not at that hub and neither was my supervisor. In fact others from my team were asked to move to a different hub.

RTO su-ks for a lot of reasons but people have every right to be mad and pushing back because this is all entirely about running people off.

Well OP, you can always have sympathy for the rest even if you think they should RTO per company mandate. Many others had and have circumstances that were accommodated prior to COVID. It’s not as binary as you portray.

I hope the company gets to a place where flexibility can be offered without a nanny state. Won’t be perfect for all but better morale should follow for most.

And one last thing, if the company is truthful about their objective regarding “improved culture” then they really should work towards building a more inspiring work location for the minions. A dedicated space you can call your own at minimum. Better than the corporate sweatshops they’ve built (not much of an exaggeration). It’s not much to ask and would show a base level of respect which seems absent these days. Of course, they don’t have to do this either and then over time they will get what they pay for.

Thanks John

Bro, don't be a schmuck and drive in any weather that puts your safety at risk, it's simply not worth it .. be safe first deal with consequences later .

Dont be like those poor workers last year at the NC manufacturing plant who wanted to leave as the Hurricane was approaching , told they couldnt and some tragically died. ..

The owners then disavowed them and said they never told them to stay... It was their choice... Corporate and legal weaseling out .. T is no different, if you get into a wreck in a black ice covered drive to work and seriously injured T.is gonna blame you for being a dum--ss and trying to drive to work... Don't be a schmuck , force executives to deal with mother nature directly.