If you're looking for a place to climb the corporate ladder through office politics and kissing up, Ford is your spot. But if you're actually seeking a company with a serious focus on engineering, look elsewhere — Ford isn't it
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@ne+1jpbe8m32 Any Fortune 500 company looks pretty good on a white collar resume as long as you were there at least a couple years. If your resume is good and you're good at interviewing, it's especially good for smaller companies, you bring the knowledge of the "big boys".
There is an upper end to that too, I'd say about 10-15 years, though I think that depends a bit more on your age than time spent at a single company. We all know companies aren't supposed to make hiring decisions based on age, but we all should be honest enough to know employers aren't fighting each other very often for candidates that are 45+.
FnF Friends and Family... which has grown very large at Ford, with the addition of all those outside hires as managers.
"....it a career it is gold on a resume."
I wouldn't call it "gold" at all. Genuinely curious how this logic is working. It's not the worst. But it damn sure isn't gold by anyone's standards I know whose got half a brain.
Five Nights at Freddy
What’s FnF
Yes, and if only for the reason that no matter how long you stay or make it a career it is gold on a resume.
@d3+1jpbe8m32 Yeah but not everywhere that’s typically for engineering teams not marketing etc
I was told the FnF posse does not discriminate? They practice DEI? Each race has a representative at each level within FnF so they can control the masses and exploit their own. That’s why you’ll see the managers be the same race as their subordinates or sometimes a mix of two races matching the manager level and then race of the manager above it. Example, Brazilians and Indians within a team. And from what I saw this is usually done through contracting and then the white employees come in when it isn’t renewed. Usually after the brick is laid for new products.
It's not the sleeping it's the ba----g
Do people actually sleep their way to the top? I heard scandals growing up and also just pop culture in movies etc, but I didn’t realize that was really being done.
I guess snooze you lose means something different at ford
@an+1jpbe8m32 is this a job given by the government because they feel bad for you? You are claiming to be paid to do a menial job? This is a self own friend, pick up some skills… check out ITT Technical Institute, maybe if you get a degree from there then you can join Model E. Usually they hire from the same place like a clan
If you were hired after 2004 it’s a revolving door unless you sleep/kiss butt your way up the ladder. I saw many good engineers leave Ford after 3 years because they could get a 10% raise to leave vs staying and getting 3% And no potential for promotion because they were white males. Ford doesn’t care if you grew up loving the company and were a Ford gear head. By the way in 5 to 10 years Ford will be majority foreign workers in the white collar ranks.
Unfortunately, it is hard to predict what the company will look like long term. Currently, the leadership is not very supportive of its employees. Just look in the press and see what is said about Ford employees. The managers lack the understanding of what leadership is and are just overpaid admins for their bosses. Many of the engineering and IT technology roles are being moved to Mexico, Brazil, and India. There are still good people at the working level but they often get caught up in politics.
That was the silliest thing I ever heard. You are pretending to be a troll-farm because someone anonymously called you stupid. We are in 2025. They are paying you to manually what now? You get paid by unemployment and think you're hired by the government.
Absolutely no longer term career options at Ford. If they do any time there make it 1-2 years max and out. Learn a side of people that are just interested in throwing people under the bus. Good experience but painful. Any experience they get there will help and will be valid. Want to save them the trouble and set them up for long term employment? Others have said get them into a trade and they'll have a long career. Don't encourage what is now called HTHD (High Tech High Demand) because that term is made up BS as it's used today. HTHD will soon mean an electrician that can fix robots and repair EV chargers. Programming and security will be done by AI soon. Intelligence with dexterity is going to be in demand for the next 20-30 years. It will be that long before they even think of turning mission critical trades jobs to robots. Don't encourage your child to waste time at Ford unless they are accepting a skilled trades role. Maybe they can help Ford where it counts in fundamentals rather then writing trash software to go on cars no one is apparently buying. All this software on cars and they forgot how to make tailgates, handles, and backup cameras work correctly. Somewhere along the way Ford lost its brain and went nuts.
@OP, you are an id--t. I get paid by my government to troll this site 8 hours a day (not just the Ford forum), make an opinion on facts, not from here
@a9+1jpbe8m32 This is OP writing...
Your comment is highly naive.
The reason I ask here is because the truth lays with anonymity. Censorship and concerns with privacy are a primary reason people don't speak how they truly fear. Fear of retaliation. It is important to build a consensus living in a world of misinformation. You just have to see through the blinds, I am not saying everyone here definitively pious either.
If your kid doesn't hurry up and graduate it won't be an issue because F will be bankrupt soon.
Seriously? Asking this type of question on a layoff website. Do you really expect someone to tell you this is the best company to work for. Some crazy parents
No this is the first year I am saying it too. Why management here has gotten worse and offshore has increased.. if you do it 2 years and out.
No
Did you finish your message? Referring to the "my" at the end. Thank you for your insights.
If you're being serious I would highly recommend not
This company has changed drastically especially over the past 4 to 5 years
Until the upper leadership of this company is fired I would tell anybody to not work here my