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Confronted Politely About Personal Items on Desk in Dallas

Yesterday, I sat next to a drop in desk with personal items all over it and politely confronted the person asking why they did that when it's open seating and not allowed. She said so many other people do it and nobody enforces it so why not. She said that she refuses to come in earlier than 8:30 and needs a desk. Yesterday there were plenty open but she says mid week it is packed and she needs her spot.

It's frustrating that we who play by the rules have to be in the office 6 or 7 to get a desk while others cheat and nothing happens. Maybe she's right, maybe I need to stick some cheat pictures of my dogs and leave a jacket on a chair and lay claim to a desk. Chances are nobody will do anything and I can come in at 8 instead of 6. I won't do that though because I am a rule follower.

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Post ID: @OP+1jpcr449y

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Has anyone been threatened with physical violence yet?
I like to watch!

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Post ID: @xh+1jpcr449y

“… other folks get cranky when you sit in their neighborhood…”

So who GAF ? Let them be cranky.

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Post ID: @ww+1jpcr449y

I take all the stuff I find on a couple of desks each day. Then on Friday, I have a "yard sale" in the parking lot at noon

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Post ID: @w8+1jpcr449y

my vp's neighborhood has 24 offices in this bldg, he's got 60+ employees here? then other folks get cranky when you sit in their neighborhood

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Post ID: @qh+1jpcr449y

“You do realize a company work day is 8 hours… your ‘org’ may be ‘recommending’ 6 in the office as the bare minimum to avoid being noticed by the eye of Sauron this go-round, but the expectation, like most US jobs is 8 hours per day.”

8 is literally not happening ever in my whole ctx dev org. The company will come to a stop if that is ever truly enforced. 6 is doable. Not 8 when you are also expected weekend time. Maybe we need to ask for hourly wage with OT?

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Post ID: @p1+1jpcr449y

" To the person saying there are no neighborhoods, it's on the SharePoint site and maps are all over our office"

I am not saying people aren't trying to TELL you that there ARE neighborhoods.

I am telling you to grow a pair, and sit wherever you want, because the official policy is "no assigned seating".

When you are challenged, you need to escalate as far as you need to, and point out the discrepancy.

Stop letting people walk all over you.

Leadership wants chaos? Give them chaos.

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Post ID: @mg+1jpcr449y

The company is trying to instigate employees getting their teeth knocked out. It is bad enough, some employees leaving their stuff to lay claim to a position. This new policy with further the chance of employees losing their teeth.

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Post ID: @kd+1jpcr449y

@jr+1jpcr449y

That is exactly the point. Not ALL offices have neighborhoods and those that do, there is often not enough seating available in the neighborhood due to the 70% rule that “leadership” has in place.

“Leadership” doesn’t care. They have a dedicated office WITH a door!

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Post ID: @k3+1jpcr449y

To the person saying there are no neighborhoods, it's on the SharePoint site and maps are all over our office

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Post ID: @jr+1jpcr449y

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  • Probably getting deleted.
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Post ID: @h3+1jpcr449y

I am going to sit in "your" seat and throw your S h 1 T away. Better start mentally preparing now.

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Post ID: @ft+1jpcr449y

There are no “neighborhoods”.

You cannot simultaneously have a “no assigned seating” policy, as well as “neighborhoods” that are designating areas where certain people should sit.

Ignore. Resist. Sit wherever you want. Escalate to YOUR VP, and let the VPs fight it out.

Submit the question: “ if there is no assigned seating, why are organizations cordoning off space and designating it as their “neighborhood”?” Submit to CRE, Viva Engage, your organizations Town Halls, etc.

You have to push back and make them follow their own flawed policies. Don’t let them have it both ways. No assigned seating, means no assigned seating.

If they want everyone in and there’s not enough room, they need to build out / lease more office space.

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Post ID: @fa+1jpcr449y

“So have at it Skippy and find out where your neighborhood is and find a seat.”

Agree with the majority of the post.
However, the problem is 1) not all organizations have “neighborhoods”. 2) those that do, don’t have enough seating for everyone in their org to sit together.
Remember, when there is no “assigned” seating ”leadership” is using the 70% rule. Because “leadership” states at any given time only 70% of the workforce will be in the office at the same time (due to illness, vac, etc).

Again, this is “leadership” math.

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Post ID: @ep+1jpcr449y

It's called a "neighborhood" and we were told at our location exactly where we were to sit for our VP's "neighborhood" by the building services people who sent us maps of the different "neighborhoods". This was in an effort to keep teams together to "collaborate". Isn't that why we are in the office to "collaborate"? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. If you are not in the neighborhood for the given VP who has said section then you need not be sitting there. In our building there are signs everywhere for the different neighborhoods. So have at it Skippy and find out where your neighborhood is and find a seat. Stop causing trouble for folks who are following the rules and sitting in their neighborhoods.

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Post ID: @d3+1jpcr449y

There’s a caveat. VP’s are now requesting and receiving desks for their orgs.

They’re grouped together in one area and they are claiming them. These were drop in spaces but now have signs that say they belong to certain orgs. BS

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Post ID: @bd+1jpcr449y

I would take it all away (with gloves on) and put it in a conference room table and then use the space.

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Post ID: @at+1jpcr449y

This comes up here a lot. I am of the mindset, if your org allows it…just come in early (6 AM) to avoid any nonsense and sit where you want. But I would still report the seat saving. Because it’s not fair. There are ways provided to report it. Given that it has been made clear there are no assigned seats, she should not be allowed to do that.

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Post ID: @an+1jpcr449y

“Our org still recommends 6 hours.”

Your org is setting you up for termination. Does it even sound right to put in less than 8 hours if you are a full-time employee?

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Post ID: @ac+1jpcr449y

“She said so many other people do it and nobody enforces it so why not.”

Common decency?
Respect?
Established policy!

Report the b1tch!

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Post ID: @ab+1jpcr449y

“ How many team requests 8 hours? Our org still recommends 6 hours.”

You do realize a company work day is 8 hours… your ‘org’ may be ‘recommending’ 6 in the office as the bare minimum to avoid being noticed by the eye of Sauron this go-round, but the expectation, like most US jobs is 8 hours per day.

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Post ID: @aa+1jpcr449y

How many team requests 8 hours? Our org still recommends 6 hours.

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Post ID: @a7+1jpcr449y

If there is no assigned seating, just sit at the desk with the personal items. The owner is welcome to take them when they arrive.

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Post ID: @a4+1jpcr449y

“Do Saturday hours count in new average hours report if I missed hours earlier in the week? “

Yes I work days, nights, evenings, weekends, and holidays and they are all counted. I verify with the Average Hour Report.

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Post ID: @a2+1jpcr449y

Do Saturday hours count in new average hours report if I missed hours earlier in the week? Our boss told us he is "requiring" 40 hours or 8 hours average per day per week and I'd rather go on a Saturday when I don't have to fight for a seat and have some peace and quiet to get work done

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