Anyone else dealing with this? My prior manager here in the US quit. She was bad, but this is indescribable as to how weird and poor it is. Paying strict attention to corporate emails, having to be on so called team calls at 6am talking about emails and incident tickets. Coupled with RTO, this is like being eaten by bugs. A manager is supposed to guide you, help you become better, open doors to your career, challenge you, give you insight and experience. I get none of that. I seriously and truly would be better off reporting to my pet rabbit. I have just got to get out of here quickly as I believe this is a permanent arrangement and a fake set up for a PIP for me.
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How is it any different than reporting to a manager in the UK other than some cultural differences?
My last manager was based in the UK and we got along great.
I report to an Indian manager in NYC, undoubtedly the best manager I ever had in my 30 years career.
What is really tragic and damaging about the current climate here is that India is easily put upon and victimized and they don’t know it. Many in Indian and here locally let the job define who they are instead of their character, ethics and skillsets defining them. This place is all too ready to pi-mp that out and take full advantage. AI and its coming promises by our executives is proof. This is not a good place to work.
@je+1jpqwc2az Concerning middle-of-the-night emails, Outlook has a feature that lets you send an email at any time in the future.
I used it a lot at my old job. We had a manager (not mine) who would look for activity on the system over the weekend and always mention it on Mondays, to prove that a) he was working over the weekend, and b) he saw you were working too!
When he got laid off we found out why he worked weekends. He had an office full of file cabinets. Every project he'd ever worked on had a color-coded folder, and lots of those little stick-on tabs with labels for every section.
After we finished laughing, we wheeled in one of those big blue recycling bins and just dumped everything in there without even looking at it.
But, he worked on weekends!
BNY Mellon's merry band of incompetent managerial id--ts strike again!
This bank is a joke!
The RULES to handle an Indian manager
- - Keep sending emails and save every item as a bcc to yourself
- - Keep asking - What is the next step ? - type questions but in a smart way. It should be of the format - This step is completed What is the next step - which showcases accomplishment but no progress or completion
- - Just do that particular step - not more not less. If the ask is generic or vague send email asking for specifics, Repeat of the same
- - Do not innovate or take it upon yourself to go the "extra" mile.
- - Keep the response volume high (translates into more Jira responses -and higher volume of work (you may think it is useless)
- - Always try to punt and assign the step to someone else or some other group through emails, jira assignments.
- - When required send a meeting invite making your manager Optional
- - End of the week, end of the month send a status update that you worked on 1000s of issues (none were resolved is another aspect that you do not mention)
- - It is what you project than what you accomplish
For Indian Managers it is not the quality that matters but quantity - so that they can grow their army
MOST IMPORTANT :: Wake up in the middle of the night (your TZ) on your way to the bathroom - click send on a mail that you should have typed already - just shows that you have been working "long" hours.
I've been reporting to Indian managers for years now. Nothing 'new' to see here.
Just focus on doing the needful and you will fine until ELIZA learns how to do your job.
It’s a completely different culture of hierarchy in India than in the US. The only motivation of India managers is to get as much as they can out of you. They are the manager. You are the peon. They have no incentive to motivate you to actually want to do well. I don’t really blame the individual managers. It really is just a cultural divide.
Your description of a manager sounds like a day dream to me 😉
I would venture to guess this is under Alejandro and like trickles down to the Wicked Witch of the North East as I see this happening in the org charts. They have the most unqualified and bone headed “managers” in India “managing” US folk. This place is a dumpster fire.
Unfortunately they are dumping everything they can in india and they dont care if that location has qualified people or not. We all can see it doesnt but sr management doesnt care. Its less money to pay out in salaries so they get bigger bonuses. We’re suffering while they get bigger bank accounts