independently of the Presence Report. It is still wrong. I thought it had been corrected but then last weeks report was published and they have under reported the hours I was in the office, and the start/end times are all over the place.
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don't forget you can always use the discrimination word because they are giving so many people exceptions for not complying.
In "at will" states, you can be fired for any reason or no reason. The only way you can sue is if a law is violated such as discrimination, whistle blowing, fmla use, etc. Perhaps not ethical but wouldn't be illegal to fire someone based on bad reporting systems.
My report is 100% accurate
TUT's is the HR system you open tickets in. Even if they are not working the tickets it is good that you are tracking erroneous reporting as we all are. Keep your own log as everyone is. Some are taking pictures in ofc with laptop time.
What is scary is that we have Legg telling us that AT&T needs to be a developer of applications for AT&T to really increase revenue, but the internal application that is most widely released to the employees is just a big barrel of cr4pola!
"Except they don't, though. "At will" employment."
The company has to differentiate between being let go for cause (fired) or just being let go (layed off). Both actions have requirements. If you are fired you have to be informed as to why you are fired but you do not qualify for unemployment benefits immediately. If you are layed off then severance is expected and you would qualify for unemployment benefits, and the company has to pay unemployment benefits to the state also.
At will does mean they can terminate you for anything; however, if they terminate you for cause and that cause was bad data, then you likely will have a case. Getting fired is different than at will termination. There has to be justifications due to being fired impacts your unemployment benefits which is a right.
the people logged in/out time by themselves every day, it was insane to let FTE spend energy on the cr-p application. The people developing and supporting should be fired first.
“ What a bunch of no nothing shills.”
Yeh? I’m betting you don’t know $h1t from sh----a either smart@$$.
Please advise where you open tickets for incorrect adv hours presence report. Thanks very much
Gotta love all of these attorney at law wannabees! What a bunch of no nothing shills.
Tracking your hours isn’t gonna be enough. You need to be opening tickets for every single day that’s incorrect. And then forward those tickets to your manager.
Based on my report, I'll soon be able to take the rest of the year off while complying!
It's sooo inaccurate...
" If they fire you they have to give a reason"
Except they don't, though. "At will" employment. They do not have to give you any reason for your termination. You may not like this, and you can downvote it, but that doesn't make it untrue.
Now, if we can believe any of the recent posts here (and that's a "big" IF...) ---people would have us believe that they were informed that they were not complying with RTO, and not meeting the minimum in office required hours as a "reason".
Based on the flawed reporting, could you have basis for a lawsuit? The answer is "maybe".
The reality is, while most will "talk" about that here...few will do the legwork and go through the time and expense to follow through. Most will need to find something else ASAP, and get some income coming in again, and just put this whole thing behind them. The company knows that.
And when push comes to shove (which it won't)--though the reporting may be "flawed", still pretty easy for the company to say, look, we told him we needed him in the office 40 hours per week, here's the data showing that he was in less than 3 hours per day. Everyone on his team that averaged 6 plus hours per day is still employed here.
I take photos of my monitor when I come in and leave showing the office network to prove my presence. Insane that we have to do this cr_p. This is all anyone talks about so in their perverted way I guess they are encouraging collaboration.
I open tickets every single week because it’s incorrect. Same with others on my team. Not one single ticket has been worked and none of the data corrected. We all keep a separate tracker because of how bad it is.
Documenting your own hours is worthless. You’ll be laid off based on this bad data and it will already be too late to do anything by the time you are notified.
How is documenting your own work hours creating a hostile work environment?
I think they are doing some convenient rounding that can result in people getting fired because they missed whatever arbitrary number of hours by 10 mins
Why? Create a hostile work environment?
This place is full of mediocrity from top to bottom.
The report clearly states at the top that reporting is in Central time. I think that part is easy, the part most are struggling with is why it doesn’t match their actual In and out times
" Fire me under false pretenses and Ill sue the ever loving cr-p out of them."
That is the key to it. If they fire you they have to give a reason. If they lay you off, no reason is necessary but severance is expected.
“ Has anyone noticed that in particular the “In” times are off? Like later vs what time you actually scanned your badge/lan connected? Or is it just mine?”
We were told the time zones it was reporting on were not accurate. Most people I’ve talked to in ATL had their time in as CST and their time out as EST for February. That appeared to be corrected for March but the most recent update looks like it’s broken again.
But now people are getting less hours overall instead of the extra hour like February. The whole thing is a disaster.
"Has anyone noticed that in particular the “In” times are off?"
I am seeing that both logon and logoff times are way off.
Has anyone noticed that in particular the “In” times are off? Like later vs what time you actually scanned your badge/lan connected? Or is it just mine?
Average Time Report is in accurate. They have logged me all over the place as well.
The last week was way off. It’s insane they are holding us to a report that is so inaccurate.
Created a spreadsheet and i track my LAN hours in and out. I badge in and out everyday. I have zero faith in the mo--ns running this company and the way they are measuring our data. I suspect it'll be totally wrong and half fabricated. Fire me under false pretenses and Ill sue the ever loving cr-p out of them. As much as I hate this job I still need this job and the benefits. Until I find something else I'm stuck here. 27 years in so no point in jumping ship now.
They don’t care if the data is accurate or not. They just need something to point to.
The report writers are purposely making bugs trying to keep the report from being effective. They are part of the resistance.
They are doing this on purpose. Cheap trick to get you to work extra hours. You’ll be laid off based on this data too.