Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Asking Developers to be Testers has become Messy, Horror, Frustrating, Ugly and Failed. For God's sake can someone enlighten this management?

Asking Developers to be Testers and Merging Testers into Developers Roles Is such a Bad Idea that it Became so Messy, Horror, Frustrating and Ugly. It not only impacted application development quality, velocity, focus, innovation and interest but also ki---d individual interest, skills and they fail faster with both roles as a developer and as a tester.

Software developers lack the objectivity to be able to test/develop and they may find it harder to put themselves into an end user's shoes or assume that the user will have knowledge about something because they do. Because they have no interest in testing, no testing knowledge, no experience of testing, no automation knowledge, lack of end-to-end perspective, lack of desire to test, testing is more painful and need to stick your a-s ho-e for hours and developers don’t have enough time to sit and focus on testing.

Putting together, asking Developers to be Testers is a failure. God only can save them.

For God's sake can someone enlighten this management please?

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Post ID: @OP+1jrLFDUd

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And running automated test scripts...a monkey and a third grader can do that.

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Post ID: @4gak+1jrLFDUd

It’s amazing how many op and posters think developers should not be testing their own code

No wonder the quality of Wells Fargo software is so cr@p

Didn’t realize we had so many lazy and entitled developers at wells but it explains a lot

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Post ID: @4mbx+1jrLFDUd

It's also a HUGE violation of segregation of duties having developers test their own code, I'm sure the OCC would love to see this.

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Post ID: @4eva+1jrLFDUd

One word SONARQUBE

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Post ID: @3pls+1jrLFDUd

It's time for our entitled Developers to take responsibility for the functionality of their deliverable.

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Post ID: @2qtu+1jrLFDUd

@2bht+1jrLFDUd exactly they havent been writing their unit tests nor have they been actually testing their work. If they had the op wouldnt have complained (I'm betting they are a former QA analyst)

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Post ID: @2fex+1jrLFDUd

If you don’t know how to test your code there’s a good chance you should not be writing code in the first place

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Post ID: @2bht+1jrLFDUd

Anyone know any good pronouns? I need attention.

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Post ID: @1aqq+1jrLFDUd

Back in the day, they turned Cowboys into Account Advisors.
But f'n WF still around today.
Fiduciary is the sound a toilet makes, for example, is an Executive joke at WF.

So a developer becomes a tester.
Everyone is a user, right?

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Post ID: @wbs+1jrLFDUd

we're the new penny pinching bank

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Post ID: @oyy+1jrLFDUd

OP is spot on

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Post ID: @gda+1jrLFDUd

From the business side, I used to help. No more. It’s all a big ruse… I stopped taking software development seriously, Because having buggy software gives the internal business teams added value. For example, for every bug they find, it shows they add value. I’ve seen it so many times.

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Post ID: @icv+1jrLFDUd

From the business side, I used to help. No more. It’s all a big ruse… I stopped taking software development seriously, Because having buggy software gives the internal business teams added value. For example, for every bug they find, it shows they add value. I’ve seen it so many times.

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Post ID: @mgh+1jrLFDUd

Doesn't matter, it makes more money for the business so we're doing it.

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Post ID: @ydn+1jrLFDUd

lol hate to tell you this but test driven development is where the company is going....with an end goal of continuous deployment...just because developers are prima donnas doesn't mean the direction of all companies with a product online isnt going towards it.

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