I started coming to work at 6:00 to get a desk but now my boss told me I have to start coming in 8:30 to 5:30 beginning in May during "core hours" and can't come in early to leave earlier. If I come in early I can't leave until 5:30 still. Anyone else hearing that? This place is getting more and more micromanaged! I'm in Dallas.
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Exempt managers don’t have set hours
Once they start requiring hours, then they have to also start paying overtime when you excede it.
These bab1es are absolutely pathetic.
First they only want to get paid for working from their momm1es house while in their pajamas.
Ohhhhhh the sheer irony of it all. T kicked out the hard working boomers for the fickle pickles. Once again the C-Suite loses. How is the culture transformation working for you AT&T. D-mb fu-s.
It’s a dress code next. Blue Suits and Red Ties. Dress shoes, freshly shined.
Why not do as you have been told? Are you not required to take direction from your boss?
my boss told me I have to start coming in 8:30 to 5:30 beginning in May during "core hours" and can't come in early to leave earlier
That is not what core hours mean. That’s just setting a required schedule
“ Breaks are paid time, lunch is not. Above hours assume 1 hr lunch.”
Exempt managers don’t clock in and out, thus why exempt manager hours are 8 and not 9. We also don’t get guaranteed lunch time, more like grab something quick if at all. We don’t get breaks either. Technically we aren’t supposed to have minimum hours because we don’t have maximum hours.
The difference is that you are avoiding some peak rush hour traffic, browsing the web?and not focused on operational work for the first hour or two of your shift.
STUPID!!!!! NO WAY. They either give us office space equipped for 100% capacity of those reporting to said office and will comply with 'core office hours' or they get us shifting earlier.
F#@#* them! Da---t anyways, you don't run a company like a freaking sweat shop. No one wants to shift to earlier hours but when you Hunger Game your offices, that's what you get, C-SUITE.
I swear, this company is setting up conditions that one day you will hear about a mass shooting in one of the hub locations. Thanks, AT and Freaking T
" So it's shifted earlier, but we aren't customer or client facing, so what difference should it make?"
The difference is that you are avoiding some peak rush hour traffic, getting a seat, and are seemingly happy about that.
They can't have that.
This is seriously the reason.
“ This is fake”
It SHOULD be!
Quit using the term banker's hours. That's generally meant as 10am-3pm (look up the origins of the idiom), or more loosely less than 40 hours. No grown up is actually showing up here from 10-3. Maybe leaving at 3, if they got here before 7, but that's not considered banker's hours, dolt.
“”8:30-5:30 is 9 hours, that accounts for a 30min lunch break and 2- 15min breaks”
Breaks are paid time, lunch is not. Above hours assume 1 hr lunch.
Is that 8:30 Central time? I'm not waiting until 9:30 Atlanta/NJ time to get sh-t done. We had a teammate in Dallas who kept trying to schedule meetings for 4PM his time, and they were 1-1.5 hr meetings. Director finally told him to cut that out bc Atlanta and NJ weren't staying for it unless he could guarantee it would be over in a half hour.
I hope our European and APAC customers are ready to match our US bankers hours.
This is the last straw. Just sell all global business because this will not work at all.
These decisions are made by department leadership.
Yeah--it's not actually department leadership who's making these decisions. It's coming from higher up, and they're making blanket OSFA decisions.
“Who defines “core hours,” when we’re a Global company?”
“We aren't customer or client facing, so what difference should it make?”
These decisions are made by department leadership. Take it or leave it.
8:30? We've never started that late. If we had coworkers coming in at 8:30, either they were running late or had a doctor/dentist appt early. 8:00 has been the norm; 7:30 if you lived further out and wanted to beat traffic home, and 7:00 if you were a super early bird.
I got in between 7:15-7:30 the other day and I was the second to the last one in my group. So it's shifted earlier, but we aren't customer or client facing, so what difference should it make?
Who defines “core hours,” when we’re a Global company? Unless you are in a call center with set hours, or a front liner with a local customer base. It seems unfairly skewed to the benefit of Central time.
If you are required to be there early to get a seat, and you are non-exempt, you need to clock in. Get the OT. That, or they need to give you assigned desk.
"No more bankers hours."
Who the F here ever worked bankers hours? I put in 1o-12 hour days - worked early to collaborate with folks in PST, late for team member in EST.... weekends, vacations, etc. NEVER adhered to a strict 8x5 schedule and certainly never skirted work. If that's how you managed day to day, I think YOU are the problem management is trying to resolve with set hours. So thanks for that.
WOW, you mean something like "business hours"??
That is starting to look like a 'real' job. (Do I hear sobbing in the background?)
That's only the beginning.
Next, they will want you to actually (should I say it?), show up and WORK !!
Don't cry, don't be scared, you can do it.....
Some day, you might actually grow up into a real adult who has, and does, a REAL job.
"Exempt managers don't have set hours."
These takes are wild. A lot of restaurants have salary exempt managers. Can you imagine if they just worked whatever hours they wanted to?
8:30-5:30 is 9 hours, that accounts for a 30min lunch break and 2- 15min breaks. Those are hourly worker hours. Hence why it’s 9 hours. Exempt managers are expected to work until the job is done, be that 10, 12, 16hrs per day or 4. Hence why we are supposed to have flexibility. It’s not 100hrs this week and min 40 every week, it’s supposed to flex.
Folks, if true, this is where the push back really needs to be ramped up.
YOU NEED TO DEMAND THE SET HOURS POLICY IN WRITING.
There are multiple reasons they won't want to provide this to you.
It is just the next turn of the sc--w, nothing more.
They saw how you were adapting and still complying to the mandate, and decided that they needed to ramp up the misery factor.
Has nothing to do with "core hours", my teammates and customers are spread across different time zones. So that is complete nonsense.
Has everything to do with taking a situation you were managing, and turning it upside down on you to make you miserable. Sitting in traffic completely unnecessarily, now unable to get to that after work appointment or your kid's ball game after work.
They can't have you being anything but miserable. Happy employees don't quit.
Become a tech. No more desk issues.
This is just another tactic to maximize productivity during business hours.
Exempt level employee's do not have to be provided a lunch break. But if breaks are permitted, certain FLSA rules apply.
I'd push back on this and request a policy in writing. Otherwise, put in your 8. They can change set hours but they can't force you to work overtime.
This is just another tactic to get people to leave voluntarily.
Other companies are not this terrible. There is life after this.
I 100% agree we should all come in during Core hours to mirror when Stanky, Pudge and the Yapping Chihuahua come in. Starting today, I declare office hours to be 10:30 followed by a 2 hour lunch, and leaving at 2:00 for a Golf game.
Most employees I know coming in that early simply browse the news and drink coffee before everyone else comes in.
Don’t forget we also take a big fat deuce and post on this website. LMAO, the price our company has to pay for making us hold it in during the long morning commute.
“Exempt managers don’t have set hours”
As you as your meet 5x8 in the office during the core coverage range, you can always come in earlier or stay later.
Exempt managers don’t have set hours
"Most employees I know coming in that early simply browse the news and drink coffee before everyone else comes in."
It sounds like you are doing a lot of stuff not related to your work task. Why don't you mind your own business A$$hole!
Lies. If this were a thing they would have had Jeff’s Vest deliver the news during what is now being dubbed “The Pudgy Town Hall”
If you’re exempt they can’t force you to take lunch
Turning that sc--w tighter.
That’s suc-s!
This is fake
Another tactic to increase pain. The beatings will continue until headcount reduction goals are met.
Your boss is simply carrying out Stankey's orders. Please don't mu---r the messenger.