Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Return to Hybrid

Do you think there’s a chance we ever return to WFH or Hybrid? I’m so sick of this RTO quittin time game already and my fiancé is too.

In all seriousness there’s actually no point of being in the office. There’s no collaboration or in person meetings or even my team members. Just teams calls.

When I tell friends and family the scenario they’re shocked and almost can’t believe it.

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“Whose policy is it? Blackrock maybe!”

That’s highly likely as the F1nkster is St1nx “boss”. Of course, both are fully beholden to their grand master “Old Scratch”.

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Post ID: @h1+1jrwcqhec

It sounds like it's time for people who endorse the work from home work model to start looking for a new job, new employer to be happy once again! There are many WFH positions with other companies, try applying for them and you'll be glad you did. The problem is, you're qualifications are obsolete and you're no longer marketable! So, just bite the proverbial bull3t and do your job.

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Post ID: @fe+1jrwcqhec

Yes, there’s an end date. We have to wait until enough workers over 40 “retire” due to the hostile changes targeting older workers or there’s a class action lawsuit.

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Post ID: @dm+1jrwcqhec

"RTO and 5x8 aren't Stankey policies."

Whose policy is it? Blackrock maybe!

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Post ID: @d5+1jrwcqhec

“ RTO and 5x8 aren't Stankey policies. They are becoming industry standards.“

Stop posting this, you boring repetitive tool bag.

So weird that this is how out you get your jollies, you sad little troll.

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Post ID: @d4+1jrwcqhec

not much will change, what worries investors the most is T's debt but Pascal prefers buybacks than debt reduction. its quite simple but "leadership" has a hard time following logic

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Post ID: @d3+1jrwcqhec

"Once Stanley leaves, there’s a chance that some sense of awakening will occur."

RTO and 5x8 aren't Stankey policies. They are becoming industry standards.

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Post ID: @d2+1jrwcqhec

Once Stanley leaves, there’s a chance that some sense of awakening will occur. Everyone knows how miserable the employees are here. They read the questions in the town halls that they willingly choose to avoid. The writing is on the wall. If they want to recruit and keep young talent, who want more and more flexibility with each generation, AT&T will need to adapt.

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Post ID: @d0+1jrwcqhec

There are many opportunities out there for working from home. You can make adult decisions and find solutions that work for you.

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Post ID: @cn+1jrwcqhec

My family was shocked to see the engineer in the family works in a call center! My sister with a 2yr AA in business has her own office. Cisco still works from home. Should have gone there when I had the chance.

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Post ID: @cm+1jrwcqhec

"The stock price is all you need to follow - so long as it goes up, they will lean into whatever they think caused it to go up.

If it heads downward, they may start to reconsider."

It will go down. The only reason it went up was due to T's sold a lot of properties due to rto plus targeting employees, laid off a lot of people, that freed up money to pay debts. Stocks are tied to debts and it temporarily saw a huge cashflow to temporarily bandaid the deficit. It wont last. AI predicted maybe within 6 months or so, it will crash.

They all know it. The business cannot sustain like this. We are the lowest in subscribers count, lowest in innovation, lowest in 5G behind Tmobile and now we treat employees like sheet. It will swing back. Trust me on this. I know you arent seeing the result now, it will get worse for the BOD. By the end of this yr, we may even see Stinkey resign or "retire"

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Post ID: @br+1jrwcqhec
It is back to the 70's/80's.

so i get my own office.
people can send me an interoffice memo cause email doesn't exist.
and we have office supplies.
was voicemail a thing in the 80s or is boss just going to have to hope i'm not somewhere else in the building collaborating?

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Post ID: @bq+1jrwcqhec
here’s actually no point of being in the office. There’s no collaboration or in person meetings or even my team members. Just teams calls.

you just made an argument for legg's 'wave 3'. where we all get shuffled from our at&t site to another site just so everyone on a team is together. then you can have meetings in person. Some groups have had this happen.
so shut up about it.

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Post ID: @bp+1jrwcqhec

It is back to the 70's/80's. Everyone comes in as no real technology
to work from home. Don't be late and don't steal and you could work here forever.

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Post ID: @bn+1jrwcqhec

No way we go back to hybrid with the current crew in charge. They never admit mistakes - have we ever heard any regrets about DTV or Warner?

Best we can hope for is that the stupidity around the presence reporting subsides a little. We need to get this out in the world (I have reached out to the Business Insider reporter but he said he was going on vacation).

The only way I see them even thinking about going back to some sort of hybrid arrangement is if the recruits they want turn them down for jobs with flexibility but with the job market in the dumper it’s a pipe dream.

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Post ID: @bg+1jrwcqhec

It will Whenever the stock moves up and headcount goes down.

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Post ID: @bf+1jrwcqhec

It will eventually be like workplace 2020. It will silently go away and nobody will hear about it and forget it how much money it cost the company to implement a d-mb policy.

Posted by Milkman

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Post ID: @bc+1jrwcqhec

LMAO!!! Sorry, no. If that’s what you’re holding out for here, you’re sorely mistaken.

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Post ID: @b4+1jrwcqhec

I think it'll relax around mid-summer/3Q. From what I hear out of Finance the planning may support this. Also, this sh-t is d-mb as fu-k and as long as they get the headcount reduction they're looking for I doubt many will keep wanting to waste their fu--ing time checking the mother fu--ing presence report.

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Post ID: @b3+1jrwcqhec
This is the most correct answer.

No, you don’t get to deem which answer is most correct. Only the thumbs up determines that buck-o. Now run along and go play. Come back later to see the results. This post here will probably have more thumbs up because this post is the most correct answer.

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Post ID: @b2+1jrwcqhec

" I think so, but I think it won’t be official. The current policies will stay on the books but they won’t be enforced because nobody will want to admit RTO was a failure."

This is the most correct answer.

The only debatable is how long it takes to get there, i.e.---when does the Presence Report stop being reviewed by VP and above, thus sending the signal to minions that no one GAF anymore.

That WILL happen, just a matter of when. Safe bet is that it's not this year. Maybe next or even into 2027.

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Post ID: @b0+1jrwcqhec

The stock price is all you need to follow - so long as it goes up, they will lean into whatever they think caused it to go up.

If it heads downward, they may start to reconsider.

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Post ID: @az+1jrwcqhec

Meant to say WFH. Happy hunting!

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Post ID: @ax+1jrwcqhec

It is a quest to convince enough co-workers to quit. Then they will RTO. But, the problem is that nobody knows the magic number.

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Post ID: @aw+1jrwcqhec

"There is no going back. T can no longer afford the resulting productivity loss."

Productivity has probably gone down since RTO was enforced.

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Post ID: @av+1jrwcqhec

“…was it like this here pre covid?”

Yes. I worked remote for several years before the “Plannedemic”.

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Post ID: @at+1jrwcqhec

At some point yes. Most teams are still not 5x and their mandates keep getting kicked down the road. If you’ve been having to come in 5x it’s because your org is being targeted for reduction. Now they are back to doing surpluses and new relocation waves because that’s not working either. Productivity is not up, it’s actually down since 5x and the subscriber and revenue numbers are down also. Nobody at the lower levels cares anymore. Treat people poorly and they’ll do just enough to not get fired, treat them well and they will go above and beyond. Basic leadership principle, but we have very few actual leaders in management roles.

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Post ID: @as+1jrwcqhec

Ask again when we are at 70-80k employees

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Post ID: @ar+1jrwcqhec

There is no going back. T can no longer afford the resulting productivity loss.

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Post ID: @an+1jrwcqhec

You all live in your own little fantasy world, was it like this here pre covid?

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Post ID: @am+1jrwcqhec

“There’s no collaboration or in person meetings or even my team members. Just teams calls.”

That’s on you then. You should be regularly communicating with your new local coworkers.

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Post ID: @aj+1jrwcqhec

Yes, T will go back to hybrid 100% fact. Let me tell you another 100% fact. T will keep the non-hub locations and actively work out of them just as they do now 1 year after the lies of Wave 1. No building has shut down. It’s all lies.

Remember the year they did the great rebadging and purge of employees that were not in hub locations? A single email and single town hall at your VP level was all the communication that was given to tell you they needed to cut back on enforcement. What we are living through today is a total and complete crock of s.h.i.t. and only a small minded peanrain would be convinced otherwise.

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Things that never happened: "When I tell friends and family the scenario they’re shocked and almost can’t believe it."

Actually when I tell my friends and family they’re not shocked at all and they do believe it. Why? Because all my friends and family and all of their friends and family know everything about how I have been treated over the years. I don’t know of a single person that has a positive thing to say about AT&T.

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Post ID: @ag+1jrwcqhec

@ad+1jrwcqhec
TRUTH!

RTO is just T’s latest attempt to get rid of badged tenured employees, just like no longer offering medical benefits to eligible people that newly retired, a few years ago.

T won’t ever admit the policy was a failure. From T perspective, did it accomplish cutting many employees, Yes. We all know that is what this is really about.

AT&T (At This Time)

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Post ID: @af+1jrwcqhec

Why is it so hard to believe that people are shocked you waste time driving to an office where none of your team members are?

70% of companies still operate in virtual or hybrid working models. Of course it’s shocking to hear 5 days for no real benefit.

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Post ID: @ac+1jrwcqhec

Things that never happened: "When I tell friends and family the scenario they’re shocked and almost can’t believe it."

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Post ID: @ab+1jrwcqhec

No, I don’t think so.

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