Time to get rid of people coffee badging. If an individual is unable to spend a minimum of six hours in the office, it is likely that their productivity at home is even lower. Down voting this statement only indicates that you may be among those who waste time and shift your responsibilities onto other employees.
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If you are in the office for less than 5 hours a day they should let you go.
Start eliminating jobs until everyone is really busy.
There is so much useless work done here it is comical. Checkers checking the checkers who check what managers should be doing.
There is no accountability - at the manager or employee level.
No one is fired for failing to do their job because of all the HR hoops. So people coast.
If I was able, as a manager, to more easily hold people accountable for doing their job I’d probably be fine with full remote. But I can’t - so I’m not ok with it. But no one is ‘reprimanded’ for coffee badging because HR can’t make it stick - so why fight the inevitable.
We only hire /staff where there are at least multiple people from the LOB located.
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Exactly. It's a complete waste of time and everyone knows it. RTO has demonstrably and negatively impacted my production and availability. There is no upside for me or for WF. Maybe for an oil company, but that's about it.
To OP and those that agree with them, why don’t you just mind your own business. Ge-z, nothing but whining and complaining! Each person is responsible for themselves and their own situations. I for one know so many that were hired to work from home and do so very professionally and are very hardworking and productive. Many go in to the office early, waste their time getting ready and commuting, and still go home and work 9+ hours, which makes it a 12 hour day for them. It’s ridiculous how you judge and condemn employees when you know nothing about them. Mind your own DAMN BUsiness!
Let's be honest here it's not about productivity it's about how you gave 20-plus years of your life to Wells Fargo and you have nothing for it all your friends and family that you grew up with here at the company left you you're all alone and now you live in a world where the bank can function without people occupying its offices and now you're home alone trying to get motivated to work but you have no friends to socialize with in their cubes you're probably one of those weirdos that roams and other people's cubes all up in their business and in their screens trying to get some details about their personal life.
You're probably one of those micromanagers who doesn't believe in their employees unless you can physically see them and physically get in their grill because you have your own psychological insecurities.
Look we all know that you probably are not qualified to do any kind of management job outside of Wells Fargo because they're 1 hour develop you Management training probably gave you enough to enter a system at an elevated level but you can't become friends with your employees one your employees probably don't respect you and two if you force the issue they'll probably put laxatives in your coffee and then you won't be able to sit at your cube for 6 hours and then someone would have to report you for not going to work taking too much personal time.
I think you really need to see a therapist about your insecurities before it's too late
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Sorry OP, but I am one of those people who spend decades working from home.
Gold coins, top dollar, whatever that one was called, the one that the CEO decided who gets it.
Now I trudge into the place they put me, nobody there works with me, and I spend my time listening to calls from others around me I really shouldn't be listening to.
Productivity is better in the office? What data supports that?
Go preach your babble to someone else. It just shows how ignorant you are of this whole situation and will believe any spoon fed pablum you read and/or hear.
I can do 3 people's jobs in one salary and still work under 40 hours a week RTO or no RTO. If you need an entire 40 hours to complete your work in the office, I'm gonna have to hold your hand and say this: "you sck at your job". Just quit now.
Coffee badgers su-k
Look at all these butt hurt slacker coffee badgers. You know you don’t work more than 3-4 hours at best when home. If you are the person who can master your job in that time frame, I commend you. The reality is most don’t and pass off their work to others.
I concur with the majority of your statement. However, I must point out that approximately 90% of the individuals I know who coffee badge not only spend 45 minutes commuting home at 11 a.m. but also log off at 4 p.m. This means they are effectively not working for a duration of two hours. Furthermore, these are the same employees who frequently fall behind on their tasks and their responsibilities end up getting dumped on others.
@OP reminds me of the coworker I used to have who thought I was lazy for completing work so fast I had plenty of time to surf the internet. He was always complaining about being busy and milking overtime. He was busy alright, busy chatting up the busty girls on the floor every chance he got.
He constantly got mad at me for looking like I had nothing to do, even bad-talked me to management about it. My direct manager didn't care, he called me his "workhorse" because I just got sh-t done.
I pulled numbers for months, and I did exactly the same amount of work as OT sponger did. He even snaked a high-profile project that was supposed to be mine, then quit in the middle when he realized he was on track to fail miserably. I picked it up, ran with it, and had the enterprise project leader thanking me for making it so successful.
All while looking like I worked less than him. @OP needs to understand some people are efficient at work because they don't like working. It's not that they don't work, they just get it done so they don't have to deal with it. In office, or remote, it gets done and nobody complains except the incompetent lazy-a$$e$ who whine about the efficient people not doing anything.
I will keep doing what I'm doing in terms of rto until my boss tells me otherwise
People are staying long enough to get coffee? Not me, in and out within 10 min.
Let them be the first to go. Save the jobs of those of us that come in and work.
That's ridiculous. I can goof around at the office as much as home. If bosses actually gave you the appropriate amount of work to do you wouldn't have time to sc--w around at either place. WF sc--wed up by hosing our teams in the first place by assigning bosses who live in different cities. Now they have to try and make up for it and we pay the price. I gotta drive 30 mins each way to go sit by myself and talk to no one. What's the difference in driving home at lunch?? This saves me and the environment.
"If an individual is unable to spend a minimum of six hours in the office, it is likely that their productivity at home is even lower."
Completely baseless logic.
OP is a geek that wishes he could work from home more, and gets mad when others do so.
If you're an advisor who works for a firm that is in the news more than your local sports team, for negative reasons, then you are an id--t who doesn't care about clients. If you're reading the negative news, so are prospective clients. They won't do business with you.
it has nothing to do with productivity, it is purely about power and guess what. as our employer WF leadership has all the power. If you don't like the mandates then find a company where you do.
I agree with OP. We should be able to work from home, if our Job isn’t in-person collaborative, without having to coffee badge to fulfill a d-mb mandate.
Drunk off that company kool-aid I see. It reminds me of a manager complaint that I saw where the manager was complaining about an employee who was going home during lunch and finishing their shift. The interviewer asked the manager if the alleged misconducted impacted their workplace or their productivity. The manager was forced to admit that it didn't and that the employee was still just as productive as everyone else. While you're judging others, the reality is you have no idea how productive these individuals are and are their actions don't harm you in any way. Sorry Charlie.
I'm the only one on my office from my team and choose not to complain because the alternative is them making my office no longer an option and me with it.
I steal every minute from Wells that I can. My manager is usually absent every day so they don’t care either. I go in at lunch time, get a free coffee then leave.
When you are the only one on your team in a Certain location what is the point in sitting in the office when you can do it from home? I see no problem going in a few hours and heading back during lunch so you avoid traffic.
oh no we can't downvote it without proving OP right!! We're up against a genius
No, time to get better Coffee/Espresso machine.