Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Cloud computing is one of the greatest mistakes corporate America is making.

But the executives in charge don’t care. They are all old and wealthy, so the full fallout will not happen until they are gone.

Cloud computing is nothing more than paying rent. Amazon, Microsoft, Google extract rent from corporations. The short term thinking execs love the idea of shedding headcount and shifting infrastructure costs from CapEx to OpEx. Amazon, Microsoft and Google offer free data transfers to load the data owned by corporations into their cloud. Once that data is in, it is expensive to extract.

But the longer term problem is not yet realized. As corporations shed head count of people who know how to support the infrastructure, over time those skill sets will dwindle. The ability to manage complex infrastructures will be captive to the cloud providers.

That is when a modern form of feudalism begins. Corporations will be beholden to these cloud providers, the rents extracted by them will increase and they will have no option but to pay as the job market for skilled infrastructure workers will be gone and consolidated to the cloud providers. The control over the data and infrastructure completely in the hands of the cloud providers, not the corporations that once owned them.

This mistake is greater than the choices made in the 1990s and 2000s to outsource manufacturing to become dependent upon foreign labor. American corporations still owned the data. In the next 10-15 years, they will have lost control of the data to the cloud feudalists. They are actively giving it away now and will only be able to access it through paying rent to these cloud feudalists.

Klaus Schwab said “you will own nothing”… neither will American corporations.

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Post ID: @OP+1jv5v5b0r

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We need an internal DOGE-like office to manage migrating off of our data centers. If Capital One can did it (mostly, apart from assets in a couple colo centers), then we can do it. The leaders and staff dragging their feet can get the bozack.

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Post ID: @dc+1jv5v5b0r

I hear you! I feel the same way about the horseless carriage - time will tell. Everyone who doesn't agree can get the bozack.

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Post ID: @db+1jv5v5b0r

Not only does cloud switch from capex to opex, there are all sorts of security and other issues that we of course have hamstrung efforts to move to cloud. Our cloud "journey" is a joke. There was so much hype a few years ago and we've barely scratched the surface. There's not much out there and on one platform you can't even put real data out there.

This is one more thing where there's the right thing and the wrong thing. We've managed to do the wrong thing yet again while paying tons of money for things we aren't even using.

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Post ID: @d3+1jv5v5b0r

You need the cloud so that offshoring can work. WF wants two of everything; that's the hybrid approach. No one shoots themselves in the foot better than Wells. This is why they have the efficiency program. @bq forgot one point, DoGE. DoGE is mapping the AI of government to feed into Palantir.

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Post ID: @cq+1jv5v5b0r

Yeah. And?

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Post ID: @bx+1jv5v5b0r

Short-sightedness is leading to the downfall of America. Our enemies have long-term enactable plans, we're stuck fighting over modernizing or going back a century. Presently, we're attempting the latter, even though it was the worst financial mistake in history.

Techno-feudalism is the ideal that the tech billionaire bros want. Don't believe me? Go look up Peter Thiel's goals with Palantir. It's designed to be a techno-monarchy to enact his techno-dictatorship to bypass any progressive swing in congress. It's going to get real bad in the near future.

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Post ID: @bq+1jv5v5b0r

Good thing Wf was slow af to cloud and just built new data centers and is only putting rinky dinky d-mbo apps in the cloud and any data and advanced processing stuff there for ML is also hosted internally…..

Wf will survive

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Post ID: @b8+1jv5v5b0r

@a1+1jv5v5b0r Your timeline is way off. You need ammo, your kids need to know basic bartersbke skills and agriculture.

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Post ID: @b6+1jv5v5b0r

AI taking over human jobs. Get used to it. Save your money cause your kids will need it.

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