If a manager is 100% remote, are they a target for layoffs, or due to their skill set etc, are they quite safe? And M2 is the manager current level if that matters.
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Nailed it. Doesn't matter of you are in the office 0 days, 3 days, or 5 days. Hub, non-hub. Everyone goes. The "reasons" the give for downsizing are nothing but lawyered up / focus grouped excuses. At the end of the day the only question is: are you in the US? Then you go. Just a question of when.
Former M4 here in Charlotte. Let go end of last year, had no clue I was on the chopping block. Ultimately found another job, so all good. Crazy thing is though, my colleagues, also M4’s survived and they were remote non-hub. No rhyme or reason I could ever discern. Better off though at USAA! Even with four days in office.
My manager is awesome, and fully remote. I’d be pretty pi---d if she got displaced, but she just took on 5 new directs. Gotta have hope….
If they are in the US, they will be eventually replaced.
The managers here are far from being managers. They are facilitators at best. As long as they have a telephone and keep the charade up... get you to coalesce to their demands -- they are safe. Of course they boot lick their 1 up and their 1 up boot lick to their 1 up and Charlie boot licks the press. Some people like this. They either like being the big nasty guy who knows everything, who can lay you off. They were the bullies on the playground grown up. The real question is are the customer's being taken care of -- in a positive way. they aren't -- no matter how many phony ratings are made.
I'd argue that managers level m4+ start to have different rules. most m1-3 play under the same rules as the rest of us. Doesn't mean their won't be exceptions to the rules, manager or not, but the higher up in the org you are the more willing those above are to make exceptions
Yeah, some managers seem to be the first to go.
Managers have different rules.
Interesting observation from inside my organization: there’s a team made up entirely of remote employees, most of whom are in non-core hub locations—and, ironically, many are over 70, including the manager.
It raises the question: is this one of those quiet, strategic plays companies make? Keep a manager in place, keep the requisitions open, and maintain the illusion of stability… until the time is right to quietly dissolve the team. It’s subtle, but it’s there. Feels less like strategy, more like a slow phase-out—devious, but calculated.
Nope, one of the best managers I've ever had was 100% remote and laid off months ago.