I get about 700 emails a day now due to distro lists. Indians for some reason love to add distro lists for even the most minor task. One guy emailed 400 people the other day asking a python coding question a kid in middle school would know. That doesn't even bother me to muhc. I got a manager who never seems to be around, always red light in a meeting 24/7. All my friends have all moved on, some who left have made amazing progress in their careers. I got indian ladies setting up meetings at like 3am to 7am everyday, rolling their R's like a maniac.. Its like an auctioneer doing a auction chant, my head is ready to explode. They're sc--wing up my sleep. Now they want me to work on Sunday. I'm at the point now im thinking of not going into the office, waking up at 8 and only taking calls after i had coffee and start at 9 and end at 5, and say i go to church on Sunday. I had enough of this place.
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My Indian boss rewards time in office not results. He lauds over those coming to work at 6 and leaving at 10 even though all they did was read emails. He puts 10 people on tasks instead of 2 to make it look more important. What I have figured out is you have to look busy not be busy in his eyes. If I have to create one more worthless powerpoint doc to explain simple concepts I'm going to puke.
Work M-F 8-5 and tell them you have family commitments that make it impossible for you to work non-traditional hours. If they ask about them, say it’s no one’s business.
If they want to fire you, it’s supposed to be a long process. If they lay you off, so be it.
From x.AI (Grok). Hey OP, I feel you—sounds like a soul-crushing grind at Wells Fargo. The 700 emails, 3am meetings, and absent manager are enough to make anyone want to check out. You’re not alone in feeling this way, and it’s clear you’re weighing your options. Let’s break down the costs and benefits of just quitting versus quiet quitting while waiting for that severance package (60-day notice + 2 weeks’ pay per year of service). Here’s a strategy to consider:
Option 1: Just Quitting
Benefits:
Immediate Relief: Walking away stops the 3am meeting madness and email overload, giving you back your sleep and sanity. Mental health is priceless—burnout can lead to serious health costs (e.g., stress-related illnesses, which the CDC links to $190 billion annually in healthcare costs).
Career Momentum: Your friends who left made “amazing progress” in their careers. Quitting now lets you start networking, upskilling (e.g., Python, since you mentioned that email), or job hunting proactively. The job market’s tight, but tech roles in the U.S. still have demand—BLS data shows 4% growth in financial sector jobs through 2032.
Control: You leave on your terms, avoiding the stress of waiting for a layoff notice.
Costs:
Financial Hit: No severance means losing the 60-day warning period pay plus 2 weeks per year of service. If you’ve been at Wells Fargo for, say, 5 years, that’s 10 weeks’ pay plus the 60-day period—potentially $20,000-$50,000 depending on your salary. You’d need savings or a new job lined up to cover this.
Job Market Risk: If you don’t land something quickly, you could face unemployment stress. Average job search time in 2025 is ~3-6 months for mid-level roles, per LinkedIn data.
Lost Benefits: You’d forfeit any accrued vacation pay or benefits tied to staying employed.
Option 2: Quiet Quitting (Waiting for the Package)
Benefits:
Severance Pay: Holding out for the package secures that 60-day notice period plus 2 weeks’ pay per year. For 5 years, that’s ~18 weeks of pay, a solid buffer to job hunt or retrain. Wells Fargo’s layoffs have been consistent, so the package might come soon.
Reduced Stress: Setting boundaries (e.g., 9-5 work, skipping Sunday calls, citing church) preserves your mental health while staying employed. You’re already leaning this way, and it aligns with quiet quitting’s ethos of doing the minimum.
Time to Plan: Staying employed gives you time to build an exit strategy—update your resume, take online courses (e.g., Coursera for Python or AWS), and network discreetly. You can leverage Wells Fargo’s name on your resume while planning your next move.
Costs:
Mental Toll: Even with boundaries, the chaotic environment (distro list spam, 3am meetings) could keep eroding your well-being. Chronic stress increases risks like anxiety or depression, per Mayo Clinic studies.
Career Stagnation: Quiet quitting might limit your visibility for promotions or references. If you’re disengaged, your work quality could dip, impacting future job prospects.
Team Dynamics: Your reduced effort might frustrate colleagues or managers, potentially leading to “quiet firing” (e.g., being sidelined), which could make the wait for severance miserable.
Recommended Exit Strategy
Given Wells Fargo’s ongoing layoffs and your description of an unsustainable work environment, quiet quitting while planning your exit seems the smarter play unless you have immediate financial security or a job offer. Here’s how to execute it:
Set Firm Boundaries: Stick to your 9-5 plan and politely decline Sunday work (e.g., “I have a personal commitment, but I’m available during regular hours”). Filter emails to manage the 700/day deluge—use rules to prioritize critical messages.
Secure the Package: With layoffs happening, the severance (60 days + 2 weeks/year) is a safety net. Keep performing the minimum to avoid performance-based termination, which could jeopardize it.
Build Your Exit Ramp:
Upskill: Take free or low-cost courses (e.g., Codecademy for Python) to boost your marketability, especially since you noted basic coding questions in your workplace.
Network: Reach out to your friends who moved on for advice or referrals. LinkedIn shows 60% of jobs come through networking.
Job Hunt Discreetly: Apply to roles in banking or tech (e.g., fintech firms like Chime or SoFi) that value Wells Fargo experience. Tailor your resume to highlight transferable skills.
Protect Your Health: Prioritize sleep and stress management (e.g., meditation, exercise). If 3am meetings persist, escalate to HR about unreasonable hours, citing work-life balance policies.
Financial Prep: Save aggressively now to cover any gap if the severance doesn’t come soon. Calculate your runway based on the potential package (e.g., 18 weeks’ pay for 5 years).
Final Thought
You’re at a breaking point, and it’s clear Wells Fargo’s environment is toxic for you. Quiet quitting buys you time and money to exit strategically, but don’t let it drag on too long—your health and career growth are worth more than enduring this chaos. Start your exit plan now, and you’ll be in a stronger position to join your friends who’ve moved on to better things. Hang in there, and good luck!
Note: If you want to dive deeper into Wells Fargo’s layoff patterns or need help crafting a resume, let me know, and I can search for more context or provide tailored advice.
I think your title should have been "Anyone else just feel like giving up WHILE waiting for the package."
A: Yes.
It's not worth your health and well-being it is not the way to live. We can do better I'll also be planning my exit strategy ahead of what will most certainly end in me getting the boot here soon.